Scouting Combine Boom/Bust

[Jpoore]

(02-27-2018, 10:47 PM)Knightmare on Elm Street Wrote: Boom: Jamarco Jones the LT from Ohio State. I think he surprise some people with his athleticism at the combine. He may rise to a 2nd round pick.

Just weighed in with the same wingspan as Orlando brown but need to eat less than 300.

(02-28-2018, 01:56 AM)Jakeypoo Wrote: Jackson is slow by most accounts and that will scare teams off. 

Not sure if he's super slow but scouting report on him is accurate a insanely good fit in a zone concept defense is where he shines.

(02-28-2018, 10:27 AM)Yojimbo Wrote: Not that it’s a competition, but I am a Florida State fan. I’ve been following James for 4 years (3 as a player and 1 as a recruit). You been on him that long?

He going to be plenty impressive without inflating his numbers. He’s 6’3” and played at 210-215. Reports are, he’s up in the 225 range, but we won’t know until the weigh-ins.

I disagree that he's 6"3. I believe he'll clock in at6"4.

(02-28-2018, 12:50 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Am I just being stubborn that I think Billings is just about the same type of player as Vea (at least in a 4-3)?
Relies on brute strength instead of technique at times. Not a prolific pass rusher but can command double teams. Teams might view as a 2-down player only.
Not to mention Billings ran a sub-5 second 40 at his Pro Day, so anyone using the argument about Vea running that fast away from the Combine should be revisiting Billings.

I just don't see a 4-3 team going for Vea early. A 3-4 team might that needs a good NT though.

I think u are imo. Billings ran under 5 at 311. Vea ran it at 350+ lbs. He has great great hand movement and ball get off, something Billings lacks.he has really good pass rushing g skills, imo elite. I would have no qualms putting him at 3-tech.

[Jpoore]

Will Hernandez with 32 inch arms, 77 6/8 wingspan and 327 lbs. Lost 13 lbs since senior bowl.

[Jpoore]

(02-28-2018, 12:42 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Joe Goodberry tweeted out an interesting idea of maybe trying Nelson at OT given his measurements and skill set. Very close to 34" arm length (considered by many to be "long enough") and very good wingspan too. Nelson is widely considered the best OL prospect in the draft too, so it could be worth trying.

Makes sense considering he was recruited as an ot. Had to learn guard bc he was behind Staley and mcg.

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(02-28-2018, 01:57 PM)Jpoore Wrote: Just weighed in with the same wingspan as Orlando brown but need to eat less than 300.
Not sure if he's super slow but scouting report on him is accurate a insanely good fit in a zone concept defense is where he shines.
I disagree that he's 6"3. I believe he'll clock in at6"4.
I think u are imo. Billings ran under 5 at 311. Vea ran it at 350+ lbs. He has great great hand movement and ball get off, something Billings lacks.he has really good pass rushing g skills, imo elite. I would have no qualms putting him at 3-tech.

He's not a good enough pass rusher to be put at 3T.

[Jpoore]

(02-28-2018, 02:10 PM)ochocincos Wrote: He's not a good enough pass rusher to be put at 3T.

Not full time but I'd be fine playing him there 25-40 percent of a years snaps. He's that good of a pass rusher.

[McC]

(02-28-2018, 12:06 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Connor Williams with only 33.0" arm length and only 77.875" wingspan. Not good for him.

Isaiah Wynn with 33.375" arm length and 78.875" wingspan.

McGlinchey 34.0" arm length and 81" wingspan.

Nelson with 33.75" arm length and 82.625" wingspan.

More measurements here - https://twitter.com/CharlesRobinson

What's the magic number for an OT?

[Jpoore]

(02-28-2018, 06:03 PM)McC Wrote: What's the magic number for an OT?

I'm fine with anything over 33

[McC]

(02-28-2018, 06:24 PM)Jpoore Wrote: I'm fine with anything over 33

Wonder what Boling's number is.

[PikesPeakUC]

I think Terrell Edmunds is a riser after he puts on a show at the combine.

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Hoping Josey Jewell is a faller.

Would like to have him as an option in the 3rd

[*bfine32*]

(02-28-2018, 06:50 PM)McC Wrote: Wonder what Boling's number is.

33.25 at the combine

[*ochocincos*]

(02-28-2018, 06:03 PM)McC Wrote: What's the magic number for an OT?

Most will say 34” and up for OT. Ideally 35”. But there are rare occasions someone in the 33” range can be OT in NFL.


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[*ochocincos*]

(02-28-2018, 06:50 PM)McC Wrote: Wonder what Boling's number is.

33.5”


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(02-28-2018, 09:49 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Most will say 34” and up for OT. Ideally 35”. But there are rare occasions someone in the 33” range can be OT in NFL.


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Most point to Joe Thomas when mentioning "short" armed OTs that succeeded. 

[McC]

(02-28-2018, 09:55 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Most point to Joe Thomas when mentioning "short" armed OTs that succeeded. 

I guess if you have shorter arms, you'd better have quicker hands.

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(03-01-2018, 12:37 AM)McC Wrote: I guess if you have shorter arms, you'd better have quicker hands.

That's what she said. 

[McC]

(03-01-2018, 12:42 AM)bfine32 Wrote: That's what she said. 

 

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(02-28-2018, 10:27 AM)Yojimbo Wrote: Not that it’s a competition, but I am a Florida State fan. I’ve been following James for 4 years (3 as a player and 1 as a recruit). You been on him that long?

He going to be plenty impressive without inflating his numbers. He’s 6’3” and played at 210-215. Reports are, he’s up in the 225 range, but we won’t know until the weigh-ins.

I think you and I may be on the same train.

[*Synric*]

(02-27-2018, 10:28 PM)Jpoore Wrote: I've been on James just as hard as you, and would love if we took James. He'll be in that 4:38-4.42. I think he was playing in that 218-223 range anyways. Either way he's gonna blow it up as a 6"4 220 lb+safety with an insane vert broad jump 3 cone and shuttle. 

Like to point out from this post Derwin James is almost 6'2. He measured in at 6'1 3/4s and 215

[*ochocincos*]

(03-05-2018, 02:57 PM)Synric Wrote: Like to point out from this post Derwin James is almost 6'2. He measured in at 6'1 3/4s and 215