Joe Burrow's stats from last year...

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(08-07-2021, 12:25 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: That's 2021 rfaulk talking. Think back to the mindset we were all in going into the 2011 season. New 2nd round rookie coming into a team coming off a 4-12 season that was potentially going to go winless, taking over a team whose franchise QB would rather retire than play for.

Dalton takes that team to not just a winning record, but to the playoffs. During the 2011 season he has FOUR 4th quarter comebacks, four game winning drives. He goes to the Pro Bowl.

People were reasonably hyped and high on Dalton.

I agree with that, and that's probably how i was. But there was no point where i felt that Dalton was better than Palmer. Dalton clearly had better surroundings but it was clear from the beginning on that he simply wasn't able to get over that hump to become a playoff-winning caliber QB. (EDIT: in hindsight it was clear that from the beginning...)

I was on the Dalton train all the way until around 2016ish and then i was a major poo-poo'er of him from that point on because, like Marv, it was clear he wasn't going to get over the hump but he kept being run out there season after season. A lot of my vitriol for him was due more to MB and Marv than it was him.