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Elephant in the Room
(11-07-2021, 09:12 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: i agree on 5-2 , also believe part of reason we lost last two.... rookies do have to make adjustments as teams see more tape... you really do have to wait till end of year to really evaluate a draft pick... plus we do seem to worry about Oline  as we did before, so will take a few years to decide if Chase was right pick over a Oline pick

I really don't want to see this debate get going again. What's done is done.

But it is important to know this reality with rookie OL-men. They generally take a year to adjust to the NFL so there is still hope Carman improves. But this means that the Bengals have to be active in FA for the OL, and early on otherwise you will have another season of subpar OL play as the rookies try to adapt to the pro game.

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