10-02-2023, 05:02 PM
(10-02-2023, 03:58 AM)J24 Wrote: 1.) Bates is elite; look at what he is doing in ATL this year. 3 picks with 2 forced fumbles.
2.) We need a pass rusher that can exploit weaknesses up and down the opposing offensive line. While also getting TFLs in the run game.
Reader while a great NT isn't that guy. Yes I know that his job is to take up space(which he is great at) and he is a very good pass rusher for a NT.
3.) I gave you the stats and their not similar in anyway outside of QB Rating. Which was do to an outlier game by Cousins against a bad team in New York. Burrow has clearly been better in the playoffs then Kirk. Look at thier respective game logs and compare the two.
4) You-" Dax Hill and Britt are good players and will be stars" also you "We don't draft well at the end of rounds". Dax Hill was drafted with the 31st pick and Britt was drafted with the 60th pick. So do you not like those players now or were they good picks.( I'm not sure if you used the term "stars" but I know you think highly of them as players.)
It's week 4 of the NFL season we have very little information on how this past draft will grade out. I would say that the early feed back is favorable to a good draft. Murphy had a sack today, Turner has looked good in coverage, and Chuck sizzle has a punt return for.a TD this season. All those picks happened to be in the bottom third of their respective rounds.
10 straight wins is impressive no matter what in my book if it's not to you then ok.
Bates has had an 2nd team All Pro season and was the #1 rated Safety in 2020 according to PFF. He was a Top 10 Safety in 2023 according to PFF as well.
In the 2021 playoffs he had 6 pass breakups and 2 INT. He also forced the game changing INT for Vonn Bell in the AFC championship game.
He lead the team in INTs along with Vonn Bell last season. He had a key TFL in the Wild Card game and saved a TD from happening (which lead to Hubbard's famous TD) on a long run.
Knocking him for giving up a TD to travis Kelce(arguably the greatest TE ever)is weird and the second TD was on Hilton.
https://atozsports.com/cincinnati/news-bengals-need-to-listen-to-joe-burrow-cincinnati/
Joe Burrow has a good quote on what Jessie meant to the team and his leadership. Also Reader and Auwzie are free agents + Hilton could be cut next off season. So we might have a huge leadership loss next season.
Also just curious; Why is it stupid to pay a safety big bucks?
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Were on a message board and being the smartest football guy here is like being the tallest dwarf. It doesn't mean shit.
Take it from me (who has been an asshole in the past on this very board); this is a cool place and a great community to be a part of. You don't want to burn too many bridges here by being a jackass like myself.
I have learning disability and I get emotional( not anyone's fault but my own that i get emotional) when people elude to me being stupid. So I would appreciate it if you didn't make fun of my reading comprehension skills or things like that it hits different for me.
Im glad Bates is having a good first 4 games, he had a great 2020, but EVERYONE knows he was awful in 2021 with ONE INT and 3 pass breakups for the ENTIRE season. Last year his PFFF score was 71, not remotely close to the Top 10. Wanting to pay him 16M is beyond dumb to me.
NT are not supposed to be great pass rushers, someone that knows an ounce of ball knows this.
Cousins again? You are knucklehead, you went after another poster who mentioned his stats, yet not one person has claimed that he is better than Joe, your lack of comprehension is mind-numbing. (I see now you admit to having poor comprehension skills, but geeez).
I NEVER said Dax or CTB will be "stars", once again you make things up to try to make a point. You really lose credibility with these takes.
I can have my own opinion on the last 2 draft classes, you know very little about ball so it is comical watching you coming after anyone.
I dont disparage Bates for the Kelce TD, but your lack of ball knowledge is magnified on the Hilton TD, Bates was suckered out of position in the middle of the filed, he ABSOLUTELY GAVE UP THAT AREA, but since you dont know ball you dont know this. Go watch the film again and watch Bates.
Every team in the NFL loses good players every year. It doesnt take a genius to know this.
If you dont know why it would be a bad decision to pay Bates 16M after his 2021 and 2022 campaigns then you truly do not understand the structure of this team or the cap. Safety is the lowest valued positon on defense.
I have zero doubt that I know more about ball than you and Im no Vince Lombardi, I like you, but your takes are just bad at times, just like this one stating Burrow is simply bad now and his calf has nothing to do with his limited, awful play.
If you do not want to be corrected then double check what you are typing, because that last comment was really off.
Im not concerned about burning bridges and I dont want to be a jackass to anyone here, you admit that you have been but there is no reason to do be like that. Maybe drop this conversation and discuss another topic?
