First 2025 Mock Draft

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(Yesterday, 04:07 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Do you take a guy in the 1st who is more rare at his specific position or a guy who is going to actually get more production?
To me, this is why NT is typically drafted lower than a pass rushing menace IDL.

Even if Grant ends up being a rare unicorn NT, will be still boost the pass rush more than a guy like Nolen?
More sacks is what I want to see in the end.

When I think of truly special game-changing NT that I would be willing to take in the teens in the 1st round, I think of a guy like Vita Vea or Haloti Ngata.
Is Grant their caliber?
Vea has averaged 6+ sacks each season over the past 3 seasons.

I was just getting into football when Ngata came out of college, so I don't remember what he was like in college, but I remember how much of a force he was in the NFL.
However, he was in a 3-4, so the ask and production were different from what I would expect of a 4-3 NT.
Vea is an ideal NT I would like to have on the Bengals though.
If Grant can be that caliber (not sure if he's there yet), I'm game.

Jalen Carter has been the best 3 tech prospect to come out in a decade.  Through two years in the league he has...10.5 sacks.  And he's considered a beast.  I can give other examples, but DT in general is not a position you should be drafting for individual pass rush numbers.  I mean, Geno Atkins is a HoF player, and he only had three seasons with double digit sacks.

Grant will almost certainly test better than Vea does.  Whether he becomes that good of a player is up in the air, but he has more potential than Vea.