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Is Shemar holding out?
(05-30-2025, 01:20 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: So you think that the team should guarantee to pay him if he's doing things that any normal citizen is expected to refrain from doing, all while they're making a fraction of the money that he would be getting paid?

Everyone is saying that this is a business, and in every other business, you're expected to act a certain way and not jeopardize the organization's investment in you.

I think he'd be foolish to sign away his guarantees which would turn them into non-guarantees at the whim of someone who would love nothing more than to not pay you. I also think pretending he's a normal citizen instead of someone who got picked 17th out of a pool of ~30m people in this country age 20-26 is equally foolish. If the Bengals didn't want to pay his guarantees, they shouldn't have drafted him.

In "every other business" Joe Burrow being the best potential employee to hire wouldn't have had his industry employment rights monopolized by the previous year's worst company in the industry, and then play for a pre-determined salary for multiple years on a contract without any open market competition. He would have gone to one of the best companies (teams) after a huge round of increasing bidding for his services by the other companies instead of getting less than 50% of what Sam Bradford signed for a decade earlier.

You don't want to start trying to apply that "every other business" criteria unless you're ready to get rid of revenue sharing, guaranteed profits, the draft, the salary cap, and rookie wage scales.
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Is Shemar holding out? - BritishBengal - 05-11-2025, 09:04 AM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - XsandOs - 05-11-2025, 11:03 AM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - BenZoo2 - 05-11-2025, 11:38 AM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - BFritz21 - 05-11-2025, 11:51 AM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - chopperbobby - 05-13-2025, 08:18 AM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - jason - 05-11-2025, 11:47 AM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - TKUHL - 05-12-2025, 11:21 AM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - Luvnit2 - 05-11-2025, 12:41 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - Housh - 05-11-2025, 01:46 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - Housh - 05-12-2025, 12:47 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - reuben.ahmed - 05-11-2025, 03:54 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - pally - 05-11-2025, 06:39 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - Soonerpeace - 05-11-2025, 11:02 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - THE PISTONS - 05-12-2025, 11:50 AM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - BFritz21 - 05-12-2025, 12:38 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - Tiger Teeth - 05-12-2025, 10:58 AM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - THE PISTONS - 05-12-2025, 11:45 AM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - Nicomo Cosca - 05-12-2025, 06:10 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - Nepa - 05-14-2025, 06:58 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - bfine32 - 05-14-2025, 08:01 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - Nicomo Cosca - 05-14-2025, 09:47 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - c766 - 05-13-2025, 11:42 AM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - Stewy - 05-13-2025, 07:45 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - PhilHos - 05-15-2025, 11:30 AM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - TKUHL - 05-23-2025, 08:31 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - c766 - 05-14-2025, 05:57 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - rfaulk34 - 05-14-2025, 09:01 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - rfaulk34 - 05-14-2025, 11:26 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - rfaulk34 - 05-15-2025, 12:28 AM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - CottonHill - 05-15-2025, 11:46 AM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - Soonerpeace - 05-15-2025, 12:22 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - jason - 05-15-2025, 01:58 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - rfaulk34 - 05-15-2025, 02:28 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - Sled21 - 05-15-2025, 10:36 AM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - rfaulk34 - 05-15-2025, 12:49 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - Sled21 - 05-15-2025, 01:54 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - rfaulk34 - 05-15-2025, 02:27 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - Sled21 - 05-15-2025, 03:15 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - rfaulk34 - 05-15-2025, 03:52 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - Sled21 - 05-15-2025, 05:27 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - Luvnit2 - 05-16-2025, 11:51 AM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - rfaulk34 - 05-16-2025, 02:21 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - CottonHill - 05-15-2025, 11:42 AM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - c766 - 05-15-2025, 11:40 AM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - PhilHos - 05-15-2025, 12:55 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - c766 - 05-15-2025, 01:04 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - Sled21 - 05-15-2025, 01:55 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - c766 - 05-15-2025, 01:57 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - PhilHos - 05-15-2025, 02:40 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - c766 - 05-15-2025, 02:24 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - c766 - 05-15-2025, 02:42 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - rfaulk34 - 05-15-2025, 02:30 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - rfaulk34 - 05-15-2025, 02:37 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - Stewy - 05-15-2025, 03:46 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - Nately120 - 05-15-2025, 05:35 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - c766 - 05-15-2025, 09:16 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - J24 - 05-16-2025, 01:02 AM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - THE PISTONS - 05-16-2025, 09:18 AM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - Sled21 - 05-19-2025, 01:48 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - TecmoBengals - 05-17-2025, 10:28 AM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - Tiger Teeth - 05-19-2025, 12:49 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - jj22 - 05-19-2025, 01:48 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - Essex Johnson - 05-19-2025, 03:33 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - R3stangs - 05-19-2025, 04:17 PM
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RE: Is Shemar holding out? - c766 - 05-19-2025, 06:16 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - ochocincos - 05-19-2025, 07:04 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - BFritz21 - 05-20-2025, 03:32 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - rfaulk34 - 05-20-2025, 03:37 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - BFritz21 - 05-20-2025, 04:44 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - c766 - 05-30-2025, 03:01 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - c766 - 05-20-2025, 04:16 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - rfaulk34 - 05-20-2025, 04:23 PM
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RE: Is Shemar holding out? - rfaulk34 - 05-23-2025, 03:36 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - ochocincos - 05-23-2025, 03:53 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - Hammerstripes - 05-23-2025, 06:04 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - ochocincos - 05-27-2025, 04:24 PM
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RE: Is Shemar holding out? - NATI BENGALS - 05-24-2025, 01:49 AM
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RE: Is Shemar holding out? - rfaulk34 - 05-25-2025, 08:06 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - Bronxbengal - 05-26-2025, 08:50 AM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - Sled21 - 05-26-2025, 11:01 AM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - XsandOs - 05-26-2025, 11:33 AM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - rfaulk34 - 05-26-2025, 12:18 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - bfine32 - 05-26-2025, 12:31 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - rfaulk34 - 05-26-2025, 08:21 PM
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RE: Is Shemar holding out? - c766 - 05-26-2025, 09:55 PM
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RE: Is Shemar holding out? - Nicomo Cosca - 05-26-2025, 09:49 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - BenZoo2 - 05-27-2025, 12:30 AM
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RE: Is Shemar holding out? - 007BengalsFan - 05-27-2025, 01:59 PM
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RE: Is Shemar holding out? - BFritz21 - 05-30-2025, 01:20 PM
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RE: Is Shemar holding out? - 007BengalsFan - 05-31-2025, 07:59 PM
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RE: Is Shemar holding out? - Joelist - 05-29-2025, 06:12 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - Synric - 05-30-2025, 07:55 AM
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RE: Is Shemar holding out? - c766 - 05-30-2025, 12:05 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - Sled21 - 05-30-2025, 12:43 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - c766 - 05-30-2025, 12:47 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - Sled21 - 05-30-2025, 01:22 PM
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RE: Is Shemar holding out? - Nately120 - 05-31-2025, 10:23 PM
RE: Is Shemar holding out? - sandwedge - 06-01-2025, 12:59 AM
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