Will longevity result in Dalton as best Bengals QB ever?

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(06-04-2016, 02:42 AM)wolfkaosaun Wrote: 1. Yes you can compare players from different eras. But I only compared them to their peers, not each other. I'm comparing Dalton to how Matt Ryan and Cam Newton played, not how Boomer played years ago. That's the difference. That's how to tell who's done well because you compare them to other players in that era.

2. Back then there were only 14 teams in the conference. So they added more teams meaning more playoff spots. Plus it would have only added 2 more times where Anderson would have made the playoffs if they had a 6 playoff team system. Boomer would have made it to the playoffs only 3 times if they added the 6 team playoff system they have now. So Dalton STILL made the playoffs more than Boomer.

3. How so? They had a top 15 defense from 1987-1989. Top 10 in 1987. Same with the Bengals from 2011-2013. Then it 2014 they had a drop off as well.
Had a top 11 defense from 1974-76. Then again in 1978. Then again in 1980. #1 defense in 1983. So in 6 of Anderson's 15 year career, the defense was in the top 10.
Well, 13 years of him actually starting. So almost half the time he had a top 10 offense as a starting QB.

Yes, Anderson was voted as MVP. But it's not like he won MVP in his first few years. Took him until he was 32 years old to win MVP.

And you can compare Dalton to his peers lately as well. Even in a passing league he's still done some remarkable things others haven't.

In 2013, Dalton ranked 8th in the NFL in passing yards. Ranked 3rd in passing TDs. Set franchise record for passing TDs.


In 2012 he ranked 7th in the NFL in passing TDs. 3rd in the AFC.

Andy Dalton is one of two QBs in NFL history to have thrown over 3,000 yards in his first 5 seasons. The other is Peyton Manning.

Also had 18,000 yards in his first 5 seasons.

In 2015, even though it was cut short, Dalton ranked 28th all time with best QB rating in a season. 8 of his 12 games he had above a 100 QB rating. Sure, you can throw in his game against Pitt at the end but that's hardly fair.

Dalton is just barely behind Drew Brees and Peyton Manning with the most passing TDs within their first 5 years.

Dalton also has the most road wins within his first 5 seasons in the NFL with 25 road wins. 3 more than both Big Ben and Matt Ryan. And he didn't even play the rest of the 2015 season.

I agree that Dalton will have to do better to be considered the greatest Bengals QB. But let's not act like Dalton has done absolutely nothing. Let's be honest. How many people thought we'd make the playoffs in 2011? Some even questioned about 2012.

People were talking about if we should draft Luck after 2011 before the season even started.

In 2013 Dalton was 7th in passing yards, not 8th. Carson Palmer was 8th.