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(12-20-2016, 04:07 AM)bengalsturntup926 Wrote: Now i think the coaching needs changed first. But i think some drastic change needs to be made somewhere. New coaching or better QB play. One or the other.

I have explained this time and time again.  Dalton doesnt really have the skills to be a pocket passer!!  Why i like mccaron better is he does have the proper mechanics.  Dalton needs pre determined plays. Did you notice alot of that in hues system?  Lots of screens, seem routes, slants, flankers. He didnt have to drop back and scan the field. Use his feet to manuver, sidestep pressure.go through all his reads. Dalton will never be that!!  When any type of pressure comes, dalton quits looking downfield,he tucks the ball. A pocket passer is still trying to make a passing play. Dalton does not, he usually scrambles around, either to a sack or goes to his right and finds someone on the right or throws out of bounds. Also Dalton is eratic in accuracy. Overrall hes not very accurate which bugs me.

On the other hand mccaron is more accurate. Just go to mccaron sports science on youtube, you will see hes 80% for 20 yard passes.  Now leader i also think mccaron is more of that also.  Dalton is too nice, dalton would never get mad at his ream, or show you hes going to make sure we will make a play and demand it. And prove it. Mccaron yelled at his center in a championship game. Dalton would just look at the OC. Mccqron is used to a program you better win or else. Under the lights, in a big conference, dalton came from a tcu christian school. Great guy, but too nice.  Ive seen nice peyton manning get mad at his team on youtube on sound efx.

Maybe we need new coaching, another hue to work with dalton. Maybe we need a QB whisperer coach who actually talks to dalton. Marvin never does ,he probably dont know shit compared to jon gruden on offense. Ive seen more then enough of dalton crumbling under pressure like the ginger bread man. Fumbles, ints, batted down balls, sacks.you name it.  SOMETHING NEEDS TO CHANGE or we will continue to watch this same story believe me.

Actually, Dalton struggles more in predetermined plays. We've seen it before. Those types of routes don't mean they're "predetermined". Predetermined throws and reading the defense presnap are very different. And numerous analysts have stated that Dalton is one of the best in the league at that. Also, hard to sidestep pressure when it's up the middle and you have a below average center and the worst starting RT in the league.

When Dalton scrambles this year, it's either been a throw away or a pass. Also, lots of QBs do those types of throws when they leave the pocket like that.

McCarron came from Alabama. You could name NFL players on that roster. Outside of Dalton, can you name one other TCU player that went into the NFL? He led the TCU Bullfrogs to an undefeated season his senior year and won the Rose Bowl. He only lost 3 games in his sophmore, junior, and senior year. Won 3 bowl games out of 4.

McCarron really isn't that good. I'm not going to watch a YouTube video when you can watch how he is in the NFL. He struggled a lot with accuracy and also had "predetermined" throws, as you like to call it. McCarron also had poor pocket awareness as he took 15 sacks in 5 games compared to Dalton's 20 sacks in 13 games. McCarron also struggles to read defenses that aren't man coverage. He struggled a lot against the Steelers and Broncos when they both did it. He works well in man coverage defenses.

And you're sitting here saying "I've seen Manning get mad on YouTube", and it sounds like that's where you're getting your info. YouTube and just what you read.
Meanwhile, if you would watch games, you would see numerous times where Dalton would yell at lineman or officials or even receivers. You would have seen him fired up. I mean, did you watch the first Steelers game? Have you watched him chew out the center after a bad snap?

McCarron isn't going to start here and will be the next Brock Osweiler/Matt Flynn if he becomes a starter. He's a game manager that needs a good team around him for him to actually win. He beat a Blaine Gabbert and Ryan Mallet led team. That's it.