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I feel bad for Andy
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(12-26-2016, 02:17 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Andy is top 10 among active players in passer rating. Considering that he never finished higher than 13th in any year you didn't conveniently exclude, that can only mean one thing, right? That other QBs have had less consistency or worse "down years"? I can't think of any other way to explain why Dalton's career passer rating ranks better than his individual years. 

With that said, I'll take the QB who has consistently been good over the scrubs who periodically rise above him. Say Kaepernick, Hoyer, McCown,   Foles, and other one year wonders that can't hang with Dalton on a year to year basis. In short, the QB who ranks 9th among active players and 14th all time in passer rating is not "mid tier".

As for your exclusion of 2016 due to some mythical tumble, Dalton is on a 2 game streak of sub par games. A 60 rating and an 84 rating (which isn't all that bad...nevermind what he's dealing with). Those followed ratings of 130 and 112. So really I'm not sure why you're acting like he's in a late season plunge. 

Just for the sake of discussion though, if you take these last 2 games and add them twice each to make up for the 4 games Dalton missed in 2015, his passer rating would've dropped all the way to 98.0, which would've ranked 8th in the league in 2015. And that's pretty close to a worst case scenario.

No mythical tumble in 2015, just going by historic numbers; as he has never finished a season above 90 in his career. Let's say Andy finishes #1 in passer rating in 2015 and sets a world record for greatest passer rating ever. Then we have one year out of 6 where his rating is above 13. 

Of course you'll take Andy over lots of other QBs; really don't think that comes as a surprise to anyone. Talk to Brownshoe, I think he agrees with you. Most everyone else that watches football including experts paid to evaluate it do not. Dude has been a mid-tier QB his whole career, but he has done so consistently; I suppose that's a good thing. 

I get it folks love their QB and think they are better than what they really are. I remember years on the old boards telling folks CP9was not as good as Big Ben.
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I feel bad for Andy - Trademark - 12-25-2016, 08:25 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Awful Llama - 12-25-2016, 09:59 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Nately120 - 12-25-2016, 10:01 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Fan_in_Kettering - 12-30-2016, 04:42 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - JumboTron - 12-30-2016, 04:56 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - RASCAL - 12-25-2016, 10:11 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - HarleyDog - 12-25-2016, 11:10 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Awful Llama - 12-25-2016, 12:40 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Aquapod770 - 12-25-2016, 11:12 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - jason - 12-25-2016, 11:18 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Whatever - 12-25-2016, 06:10 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - BengalChris - 12-26-2016, 07:05 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - treee - 12-25-2016, 12:36 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Nately120 - 12-25-2016, 01:11 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - McC - 12-25-2016, 01:31 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Derrick - 12-25-2016, 02:55 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Always a Bengal - 12-25-2016, 12:44 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - treee - 12-25-2016, 01:15 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-25-2016, 04:51 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - jason - 12-25-2016, 05:55 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-25-2016, 06:06 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Vas Deferens - 12-25-2016, 06:06 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Jpoore - 12-25-2016, 06:12 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - TheLeonardLeap - 12-25-2016, 07:14 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - SHRacerX - 12-26-2016, 11:37 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Daddy-O - 12-26-2016, 11:52 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fortyyearfan - 12-26-2016, 08:08 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - OBX Bengal - 12-25-2016, 06:27 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Awful Llama - 12-25-2016, 07:46 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-26-2016, 12:51 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - SHRacerX - 12-26-2016, 11:41 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - McC - 12-26-2016, 12:13 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Derrick - 12-26-2016, 02:43 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-26-2016, 02:54 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - James Brooks - 12-26-2016, 01:33 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - SunsetBengal - 12-26-2016, 04:47 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bengalfan74 - 12-26-2016, 07:47 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - SunsetBengal - 12-26-2016, 07:52 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-26-2016, 08:27 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - SunsetBengal - 12-26-2016, 09:14 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fredtoast - 12-27-2016, 11:02 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Wyche'sWarrior - 12-27-2016, 11:07 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-27-2016, 07:32 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-27-2016, 07:52 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Rubekahn29 - 12-27-2016, 08:17 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-27-2016, 08:36 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-27-2016, 08:47 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-27-2016, 09:20 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-27-2016, 10:13 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Nately120 - 12-27-2016, 09:36 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-27-2016, 09:45 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Hoofhearted - 12-28-2016, 11:46 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fredtoast - 12-28-2016, 11:58 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fortyyearfan - 12-26-2016, 08:18 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Wyche'sWarrior - 12-26-2016, 01:42 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Brownshoe - 12-26-2016, 02:01 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-26-2016, 12:21 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-26-2016, 02:17 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-26-2016, 04:30 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fredtoast - 12-26-2016, 04:34 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-26-2016, 05:00 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fredtoast - 12-26-2016, 05:59 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-26-2016, 06:34 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Derrick - 12-26-2016, 08:27 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fredtoast - 12-26-2016, 03:00 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-26-2016, 04:33 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fredtoast - 12-28-2016, 11:23 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-28-2016, 04:50 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fredtoast - 12-29-2016, 04:41 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fredtoast - 12-29-2016, 04:57 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-29-2016, 06:47 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-29-2016, 06:56 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-29-2016, 07:19 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - OrlandoBengal - 12-30-2016, 06:36 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-30-2016, 08:36 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-29-2016, 06:51 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Brownshoe - 12-29-2016, 08:22 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-29-2016, 09:37 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fredtoast - 12-30-2016, 03:14 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-30-2016, 04:36 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-30-2016, 06:17 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-30-2016, 09:01 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-30-2016, 09:12 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-30-2016, 10:17 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-31-2016, 12:49 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fredtoast - 12-30-2016, 08:15 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-30-2016, 09:04 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - fredtoast - 12-30-2016, 09:34 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Nicomo Cosca - 12-30-2016, 04:30 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Alleyviper13 - 12-26-2016, 02:28 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - TheLeonardLeap - 12-26-2016, 03:38 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Wyche'sWarrior - 12-26-2016, 11:18 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - SHRacerX - 12-27-2016, 01:11 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-26-2016, 12:24 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Wyche'sWarrior - 12-26-2016, 10:16 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-27-2016, 07:25 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Brownshoe - 12-27-2016, 12:08 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-27-2016, 07:29 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Brownshoe - 12-27-2016, 10:26 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-27-2016, 11:22 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Brownshoe - 12-27-2016, 11:29 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-27-2016, 11:42 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Brownshoe - 12-27-2016, 11:53 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - bfine32 - 12-28-2016, 12:58 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Brownshoe - 12-28-2016, 01:09 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-26-2016, 06:20 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Fan_in_Kettering - 12-26-2016, 10:09 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - CanadianBengal - 12-27-2016, 03:09 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-27-2016, 09:57 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Wyche'sWarrior - 12-28-2016, 03:02 AM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Butchie Tiger - 12-30-2016, 09:09 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Shake n Blake - 12-30-2016, 10:00 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - milksheikh - 12-30-2016, 09:10 PM
RE: I feel bad for Andy - Awful Llama - 12-30-2016, 09:43 PM

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