Goebbels strikes again

[Hoofhearted]

(02-11-2017, 10:55 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: This is one of those arguments where it is like a Republican trying to tell a Democrat something is different than they see it.  It is probably futile.  And before I start, I am not a relative and not on the payroll. 

Mike Brown wants to win as much as we do, if not more.  He has "stuck with Marvin" because he doesn't make quick decisions out of passion....like the Falcons firing two defensive coaches moments after the Super Bowl.  This is a very intelligent and calculating man.  I believe he didn't fire Marvin because it was one really off year.  A blip on an otherwise positive trajectory.  I don't know if Marvin can ever truly change his stripes and play with the kind of aggression necessary to win a championship, but Mike Brown rightly believes that one year shouldn't take away Marvin's opportunity to finish what he started.   As much as I hate conservative, bad clock management, no in-game adjustment Marv, I and still pulling for the guy to complete the mission.

The city does NOT pay for all the stadium and upgrades.  The city agreed to a slight tax increase to help funding of a new stadium and for improvements over the course of its existence.  Every singly owner in the NFL would do the exact same thing, and Mr. Brown did pay for improvements, enhancements, more scouts, and better coaches (how quickly we forget that the Bengals had one of the highest overall payrolls for coaches when they had Marv, Zim, and Gruden all together.  And he assembled that coaching staff.  He  may be judicious in how he spends his money, but he definitely spends on players that have earned it...there was never a question that our core players would be re-signed and offered fair market value.  The fact that Nelson, Sanu, and Jones left doesn't change that.  The Bengals wisely didn't overpay to keep them, but it should be noted their offers were very close. 

As far as the day to day operations, he does very little any more...this team is primarily run by Marvin, Katie, and Troy.  And with the exception of this past season, they have put a winning team on the field that has had a legitimate shot every season for five straight years and overcome a troublesome decade and the stigma that went with it.

I am not following the political riff or how that equates to what we're talking about. I am going off what I KNOW and the facts present to us. I have no idea how intelligent or calculated he is, so I cannot speak to that. I would assume he is. 

I know he's had two 8-8 years, and four losing seasons (07, 08, 10 and 16). I am not sure where you get this "one off year" stuff. He's terrible in primetime, terrible in the PO, and terrible vs our main div rival. Set NFL record for PO futility. This graph paints a grim picture.

And I never said the Hamilton Township people pay for all upgrades, just the pricey ones.

New scoreboard - 10 million (even asked for "for hiring an expert to go out and do studies and review other stadiums and update the stadium")

There's the concession - 20 million

All in all, the fine people are hamilton township have spent 920 million and will have paid 1.1 billion dollars by 2025.

And I was meaning the entire staff is lacking. Vas brought it up in a thread about the Falcons entire staff vs Bengals. It's not even close. The few teams i researched after that was pretty much the same.