10-26-2017, 01:40 PM
(10-24-2017, 03:13 PM)PhilHos Wrote: I get what you guys are saying, but the reality is, I don't think any other coach gets fired during the season except Marvin.
Also, firing PA sends mixed signals, IMO. People might read into the firing that Brown thinks Lewis is doing okay, but since the OL is a problem, bye-bye PA. It also gives Lewis a way to defend himself if he wants to stay after this year.
Don't get me wrong, if PA were fired mid-season and Lewis stays, I ain't gonna cry about it. I just think the next step should be to fire Lewis. Then after the season, fire ALL coaches and hire an all new coaching staff.
Eh, i think Marv should of been let go after this season no matter what. Don't have to fire him, as Jim here says,
just don't renew him or PA's contracts at the very least. These two just need to be replaced after the season but
if we were to let one of them go midseason my vote would be for PA.
As Boling said, PA doesn't coach players up midseason. Ask McNally to step in for a bit if he is for it.
(10-24-2017, 04:06 PM)jowczarski Wrote: On a practical level, they can't fire Alexander because they'd have literally no one to coach the offensive line then. No one. Kyle Caskey assisted on the OL waayy back in his QC coach days, and Robert Couch is the current QC. He's not a full fledged assistant. Also, at this point in time, if you're talking about coaching techniques/theory - even if you fired a guy and brought in a new guy off the street, man, you're in season. That would be a bigger disaster than you realize and frankly, it's impossible to do. It's not like a hitting or pitching coach in baseball where it's all just mental coaching.
The Coslet thing is a little overblown, to be honest. Here's what I'll say from talking to people around the league - Paul Alexander, as an OL coach, basically invented the vertical pass set. It was revolutionary at the time, well-respected - and let's be real - once the team decided to once again reinvest in drafting linemen high with Willie Anderson, it worked.
It's fair to point out that there wasn't that investment for a long while with only Zeitler being a first-round pick until the tackles 2015. Can you build a line with fourth-fifth-round picks? Maybe. Obviously the piper has now been paid.
As for the future - all I'll say is there aren't any coaches under contract in 2018. I think everyone is up for evaluation after this season.
McNally was helping out in 2015 and i don't find it to be a coincidence that our OL played much better
that season. If he is for it let him pitch hit at OL coach for the rest of the season. I DO really like what
you said in your last sentence Jim.
They do all need evaluation and a cleaning of house would be what this team really needs.
Benzoo said it, this team needs an enema!
(10-26-2017, 09:29 AM)Wyche Wrote: .....but you had Whitworth in round 2, Clint Boling was as high as a 2nd rounder on some mocks and scouting reports, we picked up Bobbie Williams in FA, Levi Jones was a NUMBER 10 PICK, Andre Smith was a first rounder, he let Mathis flop here.....he's had the talent. In fact, the only times he's been successful is when he's had lines mostly filled (except Center.....God forbid we'd get a useful C) with upper level talent. With all due respect, you missed some dots when you were connecting from Willie Anderson to Kevin Zeitler there.
Spot on Wyche as usual. The only players PA has ever really had success with were highly polished and talented.
Heck, Mathis was highly polished and he couldn't do anything with him and made him sit under Nasty Nate Livings.
Also, trading up for Bodine shows how much PA knows about Center play. Dude has always been one of the worst
Centers in the entire league and has handcuffed our Offense for years. PA is terrible at coaching up run blocking.
