The big 3 is the problem

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(11-11-2017, 01:51 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: I can only speak for myself, but I have no problem saying that Andy has made his share of mistakes this year. However, I will also say that when you're playing behind a line that is laughably bad, it's fair to think that the constant pressure and lack of a running game factors in to his play. It's difficult to get a fair assessment.

Also, when you're talking about guys like Brady, Wilson and Rogers...there are a couple of differences. Those are, in my opinion, three of the top 4 QB's in the game right now...and 2 of them are among the best of all-time. To say that they would do better behind this line isn't an outlandish thought, they may very well do better...which would reinforce why they are considered the best at their position. 

Andy is not an elite QB. He's not going to be able to overcome atrocious line play in the same way the 2 future HOFers and a great scrambler would be. Having said that, I would still argue that Andy has done a pretty decent job this year given the circumstances.

In regards to this discussion, i think it's fair to say (obviously) that the Bengals Oline is worse than Seattle's and Dalton is noticeably worse at escaping pressure than Wilson is. 

I don't agree with the assessment that "no one" could do well behind this line, as putrid as they are. Dalton has done well, considering his abilities, but his actual biggest problem is the number of big plays he's missed while having enough time to throw. I don't think it's fair (not saying that you are saying this...just in general) to use "gun shy" as a reason for his misses. If someone is going to try and put him in a higher tier, he needs to be able to overcome that somehow.