12-16-2017, 03:25 PM
(12-16-2017, 02:12 PM)Jakeypoo Wrote: 1. Geno played his rookie year no he didn't start but he did play on passing downs, 2. Carlos played and had 9 sacks his rookie year, 3. crocker was better than Iloka in 12, 4. Iloka and Nelson were better than Williams, 5. Binns over Sanu and Jones point you, 6. Clint started at RG and sucked his first year, 7. Leon Hall was better than Dennard, and 8. MJ wasn't ready yet his rookie year.
1. I did not say Geno did not play as a rookie. I said he didn't start and didn't play enough. Geno only got 355 snaps as a rookie. That's from a guy that's averaged 777 snaps (per 16 games) since PFR started tracking snaps in 2012.
2. I did not say Dunlap didn't play. I said he didn't start, was stuck behind Geathers on run downs, and Marvin got on Dunlap publicly.
3. What do you base this on? The opinion of the man who didn't want to start Iloka? Crocker was so good that the Bengals cut him, and he sat around for 5 months on his couch before the Bengals brought him back in September. Was Taylor Mays also better than Iloka? Because he started the first 3 games before Crocker was brought back.
4. That one I'll give you.
5. Ok.
6. Boling started 3 games and only started because Bobbie Williams was suspended. Dalton and Benson both had their best games of the season while Boling was starting.
7. How do we know this? Leon was a shell of himself and we don't know if Dennard was better because he didn't play.
8. If you say so. Again, how do we know?
(12-16-2017, 02:17 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Meh examples have been provided and many others could be. For instance how many years did your boy Andy sit behind proven Vet Bruce Gradkowski?
Just because some rookies are eased into the lineup doesn't mean this board doesn't have a tendency to make up something and run with it. No amount of examples provided to the contrary is going to change their minds. So I'll just save the key strokes.
Your examples were every bit as "meh". Gradkowski wasn't an incumbent and was never the starter in Cincy. These boards have just as much a tendency of making up stuff to defend the team/coaches/owner. Homers gonna home. No amount of examples is going to change their minds. So I'll just save the key strokes.
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