End of the "Dalton Scale"?

[CarolinaBengalFanGuy]

Hmmmm my rough rankings of NFL QB's. Maybe a few are interchangeable. I think lumping them into classes probably works better as a ranking style but whatever lol

1. Aaron Rodgers
Best in the NFL in terms of success, ability, and age.

2. Peyton Manning
He's on his last leg, but he is still playing very well. Always in the postseason. He does choke in some big games, but he won a Super Bowl and has been to 3, not just anyone can do that. Plus all those records.

3. Tom Brady
Why 3rd? I mean cheating scandal yeah I do believe they cheat and they cheat a lot. Still though 6 super bowl appearances and 4 rings? That's still impressive. Plus I think most of the cheating is minor advantages. Plus he's always a little lower on my list because I believe he's a pretty good player playing in a great system.

4. Drew Brees
Kind of like my generation Brett Farve. I watched Farve play a lot too, but I've seen pretty much all of Brees prime. High octane offense a big gunslinger. Lots of passing yards, touchdowns and interceptions. I also think he plays in a strong offensive system.

5. Ben Roethlisberger
I think that great defense helped him to that first Super Bowl, but he really came on the last half of his career. I think he's going to have a huge season this year. For years now the Steelers have been carried by Big Ben.

6. Philip Rivers
Never really had the postseason success (he does have a win courtesy of us now). For the most part always put up big numbers. He was really good, then had a stretch of a few years where he was kind of average, and now he's having really good efficient seasons.

7. Tony Romo
I've never thought Romo was a bad QB. I think he's carried some very average teams and he's not post season clutch, but he's still really good. I don't understand how a guy like him puts up the stats he does and people think he sucks. I guess it's just a part of being on the Cowboys.

8. Russell Wilson
I think Wilson is an above and very smart/efficient QB playing on a very strong team. I usually would rank him a little lower than most, but hey two straight Super Bowls with a win isn't easy.

9. Andrew Luck
Luck has the potential to end up at the top of this list in a few years. He really is that good. I think he plays on some pretty piss poor teams. No great defense, no running game, and not a very good offensive line and they are getting into the postseason? That's because of Luck. Put a halfway decent offense and team around him and he'll be a monster I think.

10. Matthew Stafford
Another good QB that I think is on a bad team. He's had an okay offensive line with serviceable running backs. Then again he also has the services of the NFL's best and most beastly WR. Never much of a defense though they had guys like Suh carrying a lot of the load. I think Stafford has the physical talent and a good enough of a head to stick around the top 10 of NFL QB's. I'd love to see them get a halfway solid team around him.

11. Matt Ryan
Finally getting a postseason win was good for Ryan. Not sure how he went from having a decent team to a crappy one out of nowhere. He's still a really good starting QB, he just needs to actually earn that "Matty Ice" nickname. If they could give him a good RB and TE Atlanta could probably get back into the postseason. They also have a lot of work on defense. He's never had a very good defense but it's pretty bad now.

12. Joe Flacco
Ugh I hate Joe. Really I just hate his homers. He's like the opposite of Peyton Manning (at least for one postseason). Really average during the season and lit it up like a HoF QB for one postseason run that got him a ring. If I don't penalize Peyton then I can't penalize Joe.

13. Colin Kaepernick
I still think Kaepernick was always an okay QB on a really good team with a really good coach. For now I'll keep him hovering halfway since he QB'd the 49ers to all that postseason success, but this season is where we'll see just how good he is.

14. Nick Foles
Not sure why Chip Kelly traded him. He might have had a chance of trading Foles and a first rounder or two for Mariota if he really wanted him. He still has a lot to prove, but he had a great first season as a starter and did okay last year amid injuries he was dealing with. Not sure how he'll do this season. He has offensive weapons around him, but they need a offensive line bad.

15. Cam Newton
Have to admit Cam carries this team on his shoulders. Bad offensive line and no running game and he still gets wins. Albeit he got lucky seeing as how they won what 7 games and got into the playoffs (actually he only won 5 of those games he missed the other two). If they could give him a healthy RB, about 4 good offensive linemen and a speedy quality receiver I think he'd be a beast.

16. Eli Manning
God how did this guy ever win 2 Super Bowls. He's kind of the quintessential average QB. But I guess he's just got that clutch factor. Must have stole some from his brother. He's certainly talented and I guess his offense around him hasn't been all that impressive during the last few seasons. I'm worried about his offensive line now at least for the first half of the season.

17. Andy Dalton
17. Andy Dalton
17. Andy Dalton
Yep I'd still classify him solidly in that average scale. Could be better could be worse. I don't think it's fair to judge him so much off of last season. Defense was worst than it has been in a long time with him at QB plus his WR2 missed the whole season, WR1 missed time and dealt with an injury, TE2 missed the whole season as well. Had some line injuries as well. Still he got the team into the postseason even if his stats were the worst he's had.

18. Ryan Tannenhill
He's been on some not great teams. Not sure how they are going to improve down the road with a hundred million dollars invested in two players, but we'll see. I didn't realize how good he did last season so if he continues that trend maybe he will start to move up on this list.

19. Carson Palmer
Still think he's pretty darn good considering he turned into a journeyman QB of sorts. Hasn't had much offense around him since he left here. Now it looks like he might have a solid offensive line. If he can stay healthy I can see him putting up a big season and maybe even getting a playoff victory.

20. Jay Cutler
People hate on him, but he's not that bad. Of course he's no Tony Romo either. Still the best QB the Bears have had in a while. It's there fault for overpaying him. At this point with all the controversy I think he's pretty much a ruined QB for Chicago and it probably would have been best for both of them if he moved on. Maybe could be a good QB elsewhere. Jets should look at him if they can't get someone else.

21. Teddy Bridgewater
Pretty good rookie season. Obviously need to see more out of him. They might have made the playoffs if they had Peterson. Considering he did what he did without him is even more miraculous. If he's back I'll be interested to see how Bridgewater does. Unlike Geno Smith I thought Teddy was a decent QB worthy of going somewhat early in the first.

22. Robert Griffin III
Lots of talent. A great head on his shoulders, and completely capable of being a super efficient QB. His low ranking is due to the injuries keeping him off the field and keeping him from being as good as he can be. Can he go the Stafford route and start staying healthy or is he another Bradford, a talented QB that just can never play.

23. Alex Smith*
Very average QB although he still capable of leading a good team into the playoffs. I just would never trust him to be able to do anything spectacular to win. Pure game manager at this point. With talent around him and a good coach (He's kind of got that in Kansas City) he can be an okay QB. After his horrid rookie season he should be proud that he's even that good.

24. Brian Hoyer*
Hoyer's a very average QB, but he has a lot of fire and passion and a surprising amount of IT factor for a journeyman backup. Maybe with what seems like a solid team in Houston he can break that mold and become a starting caliber QB, or at least viewed as one. He's got a good offense around him, a good defense, and at least a good QB friendly coach.

25. David Carr
Liked Carr a lot coming out of the draft last year. Thought he'd be a good pickup at the bottom of the first if someone wanted to trade up or even better at the top of the second for a team skipping the position in the first. He didn't disappoint me at all considering the team that drafted him. They seem like they might be on the rise here the next couple of seasons. I'm excited to see what he can do with that rookie WR and TE.

26. Jameis Winston*
I think he certainly has all the physical attributes I want out of a franchise QB. I'm just not convinced he has the head on his shoulders. He's made some stupid mistakes (I'll ignore the rape allegations), but he's very Johnny arrogant about them. Still though he's got some crazy good receivers so I'm definitely intrigued at how he'll do even if I personally want him to fail.

27. Marcus Mariota
Not sure if Mariota will be an NFL QB. He's got tons of talent, but I'm worried if he's a product of that Oregon system. I definitely want him to be good for the Titans, but I'm unsure about him. He's got a good young offense around him in Tennessee and a good coach so he should have every opportunity to succeed (They better keep Whisenhunt even if they do subpar this season I think it could workout down the road).

28. Sam Bradford*
I think he's a talented franchise caliber QB, but he just can't stay on the field. He had that great rookie season and that's the last we've seen of him. He never really had much around him in St. Louis, but still if healthy I think he'd be really good. Oh well he's close to being out of the league soon if he can't put a season together.

29. Blake Bortles
A little disappointed in him last season, but it's the Jaguars and there were a lot of rookies on offense with him. They're all a year older and they've added even more young talent. I'm not convinced he'll do great this year, but if they stick it out with everyone I think he'll be primed to make a leap next year after what is hopefully a decent sophomore campaign. To be fair he was a little raw coming out of college so it should have been expected for him to not quite do so well if thrown into the fire early.

30. Geno Smith*
He has no excuse this season. Lots of talent around him now. Good offensive line okay running backs and good receivers. It's now or never. Thought he was a good pick in the second round, but New York can't seem to find and coach up a QB.

31. EJ Manuel*
Hated him as a pick and thought he was way overdrafted. He has a lot of physical talent, but he was a project player and he has never broken that mold. He needs to go and sit on the bench behind a good QB and a good coach and he might be able to salvage his career. Unlikely though.

32. Johnny Manziel*
Blech terrible. He might be turning his life around I don't know. Hopefully he does then I won't have to hate him anymore. He pretty much was everything I expected. He thought he could pull off that crazy crap he did in college and found out the hard way it don't work that way in the NFL.

*Guys I wouldn't want as a QB whether it's age, mediocrity/not good at all, or troublemaker.