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(03-06-2019, 03:42 PM)ochocincos Wrote: Umm, Mayfield didn't a "pretty well assembled" team, he had a team that only won one game in two seasons prior. What that team did was go out during FA just a couple months before drafting Mayfield and picked up some key guys to add. 
Tyrod Taylor as a stopgap starter
Jarvis Landry was a huge get
Carlos Hyde as the primary RB
Damarious Randall as a starting DB
TJ Carrie
Chris Hubbard

They also had a really good draft with a lot of early-round picks, and they hit on most of them.

The point I'm trying to make is that you're basing the Cardinals on what they are before FA and the draft happen, which you could easily say the Browns were in an even worse position at this point last year.

The biggest thing they already had was a line in front of the QB, which is a thing the Cardinals absolutely do not have.  They also had a talented young TE.  And a lot of the Browns losing was directly due to Hue's suckitude and the OC and DC doing everything possible to undermine him.  And don't forget the kicking problems, which directly caused a couple losses.

Kingsbury could not even win at TT.  Good luck with that roster in that division.

It's a good thing Murray has fast feet cuz he's gonna need them just to stay alive.
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