05-26-2015, 10:30 PM
(05-21-2015, 11:26 AM)PhilHos Wrote: From a pure talent perspective, Terrell Pryor >> Tannehill AND Dalton. Are you saying you want Pryor to start for the Bengals? Obviously, the higher talent = better production, right?
In terms of the Tannehill vs Dalton debate, in my mind, they are about equal.
One last thing about Dalton (for now), I find it very telling that the usual standards for judging a QB are thrown out the window when it comes to Dalton. Other QBs are judged on wins and stats, for the most part. But, because those would indicate Dalton is a good QB, people bring up other things. They may be valid criticisms (playoff and prime time performances, for example), but still are generally solely only used to knock Dalton down.
The fact of the matter is that Dalton is a decent-to-good QB that has shown flashes of being a very good, if not great, QB, whose problems stem from inconsistencies and poor playoff/prime time performances.
With that said, there is a small part of me that sometimes dreams that Pryor gets a chance to start and ends up being like a super mobile Brett Favre (I do like them strong arm QBs).
Exactly. Tannehill has better tools than Tom Brady and Drew Brees, too, but he's nowhere near the QB. Despite his arm strength and the Dolphins getting the best deep threat in the league in Mike Wallace, he still isn't as good of a deep ball thrower as Dalton.
People also overestimate the talent around Dalton. Truth is, while this roster is sound and deep, it's severely lacking in top tier players that are often the difference makers in critical games. There's only 6 players on this roster who have been to the Pro Bowl, even as an alternate. One of those is Dalton. Burfict missed most of the year with various injuries. Atkins was a shell of himself coming back from a torn ACL. Whit was great. Huber is a punter. AJ was dinged up and in and out of the lineup, and when he was healthy injuries to the talent around him made it easier for teams to focus on putting the clamps on him.
Dalton is far from elite, but people ranking him in the 20's is laughable. You might make the playoffs once or twice in a four year span, maybe go on a run and get deep once, but you don't make it four years straight in arguably the toughest division in football without a good QB. If it was that plausible, then teams wouldn't give up what they do to move up in the draft to try and draft a quality QB and teams wouldn't pay what they do to hold on to other good but not great QB's.