01-07-2021, 08:18 PM
(01-07-2021, 04:40 PM)Essex Johnson Wrote: It has happen before where a QB still wins games with a weak coach and bad decisions by ownership..looking at Rivers he had chaos through the years with Chargers and Luck at Colts. and they were able to wins games. I will never buy that it is always coaches and ownership that totally hold a franchise QB a from winning games.. Detroit has been more dysfunctional than Bengals in the last 10 years and Stafford still averaged 6 wins a year in his career (72-90 record). Hell Mayfield was 6-7 as a rookie with then the dysfunctional browns.
Burrow needs to still show he can wins some games before I can believe he is in the category of a Rivers or a Luck or even Stafford.
Philip Rivers didn’t even start a game until his 3rd season. Little different than being thrown right into the fire like Burrow, no?
Matthew Stafford went 2-8 as rookie.
Andrew Luck had Bruce Arians as his HC for the majority of his rookie season while Pagano was dealing with Leukemia. In what world is he a “weak coach?”
The only example you named that had any success (as a rookie) despite questionable coaching is Mayfield.
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