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(04-11-2017, 07:52 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: And I am talking about people who are getting some of the best doctors and physical therapists in the world. The same people who got Terrell Suggs back on the field 5 months after he tore his achilles. Who had Leon Hall backpedaling and running 4 months after his achilles tear. The people that had Rob Gronkowski in the WWE ring 4 months after back surgery.
When you have millions of dollars, the best doctors and rehab specialists in the world, and you don't have to work 9-to-5 and then fit some rehab sessions in here and there, your recovery time isn't the same as Joe Fan.
On the bright side. I don't think the Bengals medical staff is as bad as the Reds medical staff.
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(04-11-2017, 07:52 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: And I am talking about people who are getting some of the best doctors and physical therapists in the world. The same people who got Terrell Suggs back on the field 5 months after he tore his achilles. Who had Leon Hall backpedaling and running 4 months after his achilles tear. The people that had Rob Gronkowski in the WWE ring 4 months after back surgery.
When you have millions of dollars, the best doctors and rehab specialists in the world, and you don't have to work 9-to-5 and then fit some rehab sessions in here and there, your recovery time isn't the same as Joe Fan.
And from the beginning, I've stated surgery is individualized to each patient every case which means Joe Fan doesn't necessarily wait 2-3 months and NFL players don't automatically have surgery right away. It's almost always best to avoid surgery if possible.
It's real easy for you to prove Eifert's injury was mismanaged. Just tell me was his diagnosis was?
If everything you wrote above about recovery is true, why wasn't Eifert ready 3 months after surgery like they reported?
Help me out with one more thing. If Hobson is right and Eifert tore a ligament in his ankle and it was a grade III ankle sprain of the ATFL like I surmised 11 months ago and surgery isn't clearly better than not having surgery and Eifert saw a foot and ankle specialist who didn't do surgery immediately which as I showed you is the standard of care for this type of injury, what is it that you think was mismanaged? Even though evidence indicates surgery isn't a superior treatment option, they should do surgery anyways despite the evidence? That type of thinking is why teams inappropriately used antibiotics for viral infections which contributed to increased rates of MRSA infections among their players. That's what happens when you ignore evidence.
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(04-11-2017, 07:16 PM)bfine32 Wrote: 2
Surgical and non-surgical
What's a procedure?
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(04-10-2017, 10:26 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: I am not a doctor. I knew he was having back surgery. But didn't know this is what it was. In my professional not a doctor opinion... Holy shit.
This can't be good for the longevity of an NFL players career.
No way can I get on board with giving Eifert a mega contract this year. If he makes it through the year healthy we should use the franchise tag next year and if his health is holding up work on a long term deal then.
http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/Eifert-Ready-to-go-by-go-time/d395406a-96f6-42ad-8dd5-6b9adc0eb76d
"When he tweaked his back running a route in one of his first practices back, he missed two more games and had a disc removed while the Bengals were playing their last two games."
Would love to see Kroft and Uzi develop. But I don't know if we will even wait that long. Depending on the way the draft falls we really could end up taking a TE in the first round.
I checked the procedure out. It's to relieve pain. But the crazy thing is that there isn't evidence to prove that it is better than not having surgery. I hope it relieves his pain and he is able to live pain free. If he returns and is the same guy he was before then that's great but really just a bonus.
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(04-11-2017, 10:59 PM)bengalbiff Wrote: I checked the procedure out. It's to relieve pain. But the crazy thing is that there isn't evidence to prove that it is better than not having surgery. I hope it relieves his pain and he is able to live pain free. If he returns and is the same guy he was before then that's great but really just a bonus.
Yep. Some people get better, some people get worse, many have no change. After two years, there is almost no difference in pain relief between the patients who had surgery and the ones who didn't.
http://www.medicaldaily.com/pros-and-complications-microdiscectomy-and-why-tiger-woods-missing-masters-back-surgery-273900
Quote:During a microdiscectomy, surgeons create a small incision in the lower back, after which the back muscles are lifted off the arch of the spine. The surgeon then removes a membrane over the nerve roots, visible through special glasses. The nerve root is then moved over, giving the doctor the chance to remove the disc material. It’s a surgery that can be done in one day, with no requirement for the patient to stay in the hospital overnight. Pain is often relieved immediately after the surgery, and patients are able to go back to their normal lives shortly after.
Though the success rate of this type of procedure is usually 90 percent or higher, there are chances for complications, which include dural tears, nerve root damage, bladder incontinence or bleeding. Most of the time, however, the operation is safe, effective, and rarely results in recurrent herniated discs. It appears Woods' operation was successful, and he will be back on the playing field this summer.
Woods played in 16 tournaments in 2013 before his surgery. Since his surgery in 2014 in played in 11 tournaments in 2015, had a second back surgery, missed all of 2016, and played in one tournament in 2017. And he is a golfer. And his surgery was a "success."
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I had a disc removed at age 34. L5/s1. It was first herniated, which caused a lot of discomfort and some sciatica in my leg, then it ruptured and the only solution is to go remove the pieces. Didn't require a fusion. Scar tissue builds over time. You get a tick shorter as your spine settles. Not a doctor but this is me as a former patient relaying my experience. Day after surgery I was up and walking, no more leg pain. Much relief. I think I wasn't supposed to lift much for 6-8 weeks. It was 10 years ago and I've never looked back. Hope Eifert has a similar recovery. Back injuries and the associates pain affect everything.
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Used to play a lot of "disc" golf back in the day so sort of an expert.
Think he will be fine and recover long enough to get a hangnail and be out again though.
Can get a blue collar TE in Hikutini in the mid rounds.
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We haven't had a kick ass TE since the days of Rodney Holman.
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(04-12-2017, 01:54 AM)Rattler Wrote: We haven't had a kick ass TE since the days of Rodney Holman.
Tny McGee had a couple of decent years.
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(04-10-2017, 10:26 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: I am not a doctor. I knew he was having back surgery. But didn't know this is what it was. In my professional not a doctor opinion... Holy shit.
This can't be good for the longevity of an NFL players career.
No way can I get on board with giving Eifert a mega contract this year. If he makes it through the year healthy we should use the franchise tag next year and if his health is holding up work on a long term deal then.
http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/Eifert-Ready-to-go-by-go-time/d395406a-96f6-42ad-8dd5-6b9adc0eb76d
"When he tweaked his back running a route in one of his first practices back, he missed two more games and had a disc removed while the Bengals were playing their last two games."
Would love to see Kroft and Uzi develop. But I don't know if we will even wait that long. Depending on the way the draft falls we really could end up taking a TE in the first round.
Well this makes it sound more likely it won't be a mega contract and it is looking more and more like OJ Howard at 9.
Eifert may never be the same but with his hands, size and route running i would be for bringin him back for the right money
and having these two tear up the middle of the field when Eifert is healthy. To me, getting OJ Howard just makes too much
sense and then going with a DE in round 2 where a lot of good ones will fall.
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I like Evan Engram in the 2nd round.
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(04-11-2017, 04:48 PM)Housh Wrote: Hope hes ok for this season
Want him to at least play 16 games one time in his career just so I know what he could have been if healthy.
He missed a buttload of time for a sprained ankle, so I'm sure having part of his back removed won't slow him down a bit! 
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He's probably an inch shorter now, hope it doesn't effect his red zone play. And I hope he feels ok and stuff
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