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Which team improved most from this year's draft?
Both Cleveland and Baltimore had good drafts. As did Bengals. Steelers had some nice picks and may have found Ben's eventual replacement.
I would have to say Cleveland.
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I think each team did well for their respective clubs. They Browns can show the most improvement the quickest cause they're terrible. Baltimore really improved their defense and shored up some o line holes. Shitsburgh added some quality guys also.
I like getting some offensive weapons, addressing d line and the overall improvement in team speed
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Cleveland is still where QBs go to die..
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Great defensive draft for the Ravens, but it leaves a lot to be desired on the offense. Holes filled where we lost depth on the o line, but we passed up on a play maker on offense to get a CB with issues getting beat deep that we have to develop.
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(05-01-2017, 01:58 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Great defensive draft for the Ravens, but it leaves a lot to be desired on the offense. Holes filled where we lost depth on the o line, but we passed up on a play maker on offense to get a CB with issues getting beat deep that we have to develop.
I think most NFL teams had difficulties filling holes on the offensive line in this year's draft.
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(05-01-2017, 01:58 PM)BmorePat87 Wrote: Great defensive draft for the Ravens, but it leaves a lot to be desired on the offense. Holes filled where we lost depth on the o line, but we passed up on a play maker on offense to get a CB with issues getting beat deep that we have to develop.
you talking the 6th rounder CB/RB/Special teamer? he might fit as peermans replacement.
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(05-01-2017, 02:46 AM)grampahol Wrote: Cleveland is still where QBs go to die..
As Cincinnati is where NFL World Championships never come.
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(05-04-2017, 08:27 PM)Vambo Wrote: As Cincinnati is where NFL World Championships never come.
Browns championships were likely before you were born if that's what your using to insult cincy its pretty bad
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(04-29-2017, 09:00 PM)psychdoctor Wrote: Which team improved most from this year's draft?
Both Cleveland and Baltimore had good drafts. As did Bengals. Steelers had some nice picks and may have found Ben's eventual replacement.
I would have to say Cleveland.
I'm guessing we'll know in a year. Maybe two.
The draft is the one part of the NFL I never followed closely. Lot's of hype and then they have to play. I always say just wake me when camp starts so we can see how they really look and then judge 'em at the end of the season unless they're an obvious bust/superstar before then...which is rare.
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(05-04-2017, 08:27 PM)Vambo Wrote: As Cincinnati is where NFL World Championships never come.
An AFC championship is equivalent to a pre Super Bowl NFL championship. The Clowns weren't champions of both the NFL and AFL...only the NFL.
Likewise, the bengals were champs of the AFC (the old AFL) twice.
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(05-13-2017, 07:24 PM)Vlad Wrote: An AFC championship is equivalent to a pre Super Bowl NFL championship. The Clowns weren't champions of both the NFL and AFL...only the NFL.
Likewise, the bengals were champs of the AFC (the old AFL) twice.
And they won before the Steelers ( BSY Befoe Steroid Years}  Better football through Chemistry ! 
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Have to see all the teams drafts, i know the Browns and Ravens looked good early especially the Browns in the 1st.
Garrett and Peppers is good.
I thought Jonathan Allen was a perfect fit for the Ravens but they went with the CB instead which was solid.
I don't know about TJ Watt where the Steelers got him, seemed like a reach to me, he is not his brother and from most
of the predictions i saw was seen as a 2nd round pick. We will see. Couldn't be happier with the Bengals draft....
1 - John Ross WR Washington
2 - Joe Mixon RB Oklahoma
3 - Jordan Willis DE Kansas State
4 - Carl Lawson LB/DE Auburn, Josh Malone WR Tennessee, Ryan Glasgow DT/OL Michigan
5 - Jake Elliott K, JJ Dielman C Utah
6 - Brandon Wilson S/KR/RB Houston
7 - Mason Schreck TE Buffalo
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(05-17-2017, 09:11 PM)Vambo Wrote: And they won before the Steelers ( BSY Befoe Steroid Years} Better football through Chemistry !
Why of course. The Deflection. You people just can't help yourselves and go straight for the steroids thing again.
Deflecting could only mean you agree that a bengals AFC Championship is equivalent to a Clowns NFL championship.
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(05-21-2017, 10:11 AM)Vlad Wrote: Why of course. The Deflection. You people just can't help yourselves and go straight for the steroids thing again.
Deflecting could only mean you agree that a bengals AFC Championship is equivalent to a Clowns NFL championship.
Must be better than the Steelers STEROID Titles too then... Having to CHEAT to win is pathetic. 
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(05-21-2017, 11:41 PM)Vambo Wrote: Must be better than the Steelers STEROID Titles too then... Having to CHEAT to win is pathetic.
Disagree.
But you do agree that the bengals AFC Championship is equivalent to a Shit Stain NFL championship.
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(05-22-2017, 10:32 AM)Vlad Wrote: Disagree.
But you do agree that the bengals AFC Championship is equivalent to a Shit Stain NFL championship.
The question of just how many of the 70s era Steelers were on the juice is still a topic of debate.
http://www.espn.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=3832996
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(05-22-2017, 10:32 AM)Vlad Wrote: Disagree.
But you do agree that the bengals AFC Championship is equivalent to a Shit Stain NFL championship.
Not at all your point is make believe, mine is reality it has been proven Steeler players had taken Steroids to win games many players have come out and admitted it and even one Steeler player wrote a book about it.
Just like your head coach now cheats like walking on the field during play blocking opponents from scoring!
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(05-22-2017, 12:00 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: The question of just how many of the 70s era Steelers were on the juice is still a topic of debate.
http://www.espn.com/espn/otl/news/story?id=3832996
Most of the Dline even players like Rocky Bleier  admitted to using Steroids. The Steelers at one point had a Steroid specialist as a team doctor. Chuck Knoll knew but turned his head to it.
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(05-21-2017, 11:41 PM)Vambo Wrote: Must be better than the Steelers STEROID Titles too then... Having to CHEAT to win is pathetic.
Steroids weren't legislated out of the NFL until 1983. And they were not even declared a controlled substance by law until 1990.
So call it shady, a shortcut, or whatever, but it is NOT cheating to do something that is isn't at the time declared to be illegal.
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(05-24-2017, 02:22 PM)JS-Steelerfan Wrote: Steroids weren't legislated out of the NFL until 1983. And they were not even declared a controlled substance by law until 1990.
So call it shady, a shortcut, or whatever, but it is NOT cheating to do something that is isn't at the time declared to be illegal.
Cheating is still cheating!
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