11-16-2017, 02:47 PM
I would equate it to hiring a telemarketer and making them use a rotary phone; Or a mechanic with only wrenches and no impact guns. You get the point...
Marvin Lewis is 0-7 in the playoffs. So why is he still coaching the Bengals?
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11-16-2017, 02:47 PM
I would equate it to hiring a telemarketer and making them use a rotary phone; Or a mechanic with only wrenches and no impact guns. You get the point...
11-16-2017, 03:16 PM
(11-16-2017, 02:24 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: Counting the postseason...he is 2-14 against the Steelers...AT HOME. "Better send those refunds..."
11-16-2017, 03:31 PM
It is so sad it is funny. Any coach on any other team would of been fired with Marv's 2nd half scoring differential and record against their #1 rival in their own Division. You cannot continue to never make in game adjustments and continue to lose at home to your Division rival and not be a complete joke. Him talking down our first round pick almost makes me want MB to fire him right now and i wasn't for this before. I am seriously starting to dislike Marvin Lewis as a person which i also never did before. Just have to ride this dead horse for the rest of the season. We can make it through guys.
11-16-2017, 03:34 PM
11-16-2017, 03:54 PM
Why did I read this thread? It's depressing the hell outta me!
11-16-2017, 05:04 PM
(11-16-2017, 03:31 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: The Bengals accept that same mediocrity from players too in many cases. It's what is meant by a toxic organizational culture.
11-16-2017, 05:14 PM
(11-16-2017, 05:04 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: The Bengals accept that same mediocrity from players too in many cases. It's what is meant by a toxic organizational culture. Not with John Ross for some weird reason. He let Marv, Andy and the whole team down on that one play lol Crickets when Og and Bodine play terrible all year.
11-16-2017, 05:27 PM
(11-16-2017, 05:14 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Not with John Ross for some weird reason. I think Alexander wanted OG and Bodine so he plays them. Lewis didn't want Ross so he doesn't play him. It's why the coaches scouting fails.
11-16-2017, 05:29 PM
(11-16-2017, 01:56 PM)Pat5775 Wrote: Why does Mike have such a hardon for terrible coaches? And why is he so against firing them or letting them quit? Someone beat me to the punch, but it's all about his Dad getting fired. #MikeBrownLogic To the OP, this reminds me of when I compared the Mervin-Era Bengals to a GF who always lets you get to 2nd base, then shuts you down as you're heading for 3rd. We had playoff blue balls. 7 times.
The training, nutrition, medicine, fitness, playbooks and rules evolve. The athlete does not.
11-16-2017, 05:46 PM
(11-16-2017, 05:29 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Someone beat me to the punch, but it's all about his Dad getting fired. #MikeBrownLogic Well, that makes sense... But that's just plain stupid. There's a difference between firing someone for personal reasons (what happened to Paul in Cleveland) and firing someone for sheer incompetence (every coach we've had since Mike took over). You'd think an "educated man" like Mike Brown would understand that. I also can't wrap my head around why he wouldn't let an underachieving head coach walk. He actually tried to talk a couple of 90's coaches out of quitting? Are you kidding me? He had to realize that they weren't getting the job done and them walking away isn't a bad thing... Is he simply terrified to get up off his butt and do search for a new coach?
11-16-2017, 05:51 PM
Because our owner is a eunuch money counter.
11-16-2017, 06:04 PM
(11-16-2017, 05:27 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: I think Alexander wanted OG and Bodine so he plays them. You should work with what you have regardless if you wanted the player or not. This is borderline childish by both Marv and PA. Play the best players and use them to their strengths. These guys just don't get this at all. We needed speed so we drafted the fastest dude ever at the combine, use it. He isn't all speed either, has a wide route tree. I mean, this stuff is pretty simple. Same with PA and this Zone Blocking Scheme. Probably ought to draft players that fit it.
11-16-2017, 06:19 PM
(11-16-2017, 05:29 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Someone beat me to the punch, but it's all about his Dad getting fired. #MikeBrownLogic (11-16-2017, 05:46 PM)Pat5775 Wrote: Well, that makes sense... But that's just plain stupid. There's a difference between firing someone for personal reasons (what happened to Paul in Cleveland) and firing someone for sheer incompetence (every coach we've had since Mike took over). You'd think an "educated man" like Mike Brown would understand that. To be honest, he allegedly fired Sammy over personal reasons/disagreements. "Better send those refunds..."
11-16-2017, 06:34 PM
(11-16-2017, 02:03 PM)grampahol Wrote: Is it possible to be so accidentally stupid to make billions of dollars and always lose? You would really have to work at it. With the appreciation of an NFL franchise over the years and profit sharing, it's really not that hard. They had enough money in the beginning to get their foot in the door and shrewdly gobbled up all the shares...and here we(they) sit in 2017, rolling in the dough because they made smart plays over the years. To bad they don't care about making smart plays on the field. "The measure of a man's intelligence can be seen in the length of his argument."
11-16-2017, 06:54 PM
11-16-2017, 07:14 PM
(11-16-2017, 05:46 PM)Pat5775 Wrote: Well, that makes sense... But that's just plain stupid. There's a difference between firing someone for personal reasons (what happened to Paul in Cleveland) and firing someone for sheer incompetence (every coach we've had since Mike took over). You'd think an "educated man" like Mike Brown would understand that. Well like you're saying, it's common sense to see the difference. (11-16-2017, 06:19 PM)Wyche Wrote: To be honest, he allegedly fired Sammy over personal reasons/disagreements. Good point. Maybe the spiel about his pops just sounds good. Personally, I think Mike just lacks the testicular fortitude to fire people. Since Wyche, Mike has been witness to 15 losing seasons (counting this one) and an overall record of 173-233-3 (.427). That's a **** ton of losing, yet how many coaches has he fired? David Shula - holds the record for quickest to 50 losses, due to Mike's unwillingness to fire him. Finished with a record of 19-52 (.267). DlCK LeBeau - It took a 2-14 season to get him fired. Finished 12-33 (.267). 2 head coaches fired in the last 26 years...with a record like that. He hasn't even allowed many coordinators or position coaches to be fired. Bob Bratkowski lasted 10 seasons. He was forced on Merv after the offense finished 31st and 28th in points. Then it took 3 straight years of terrible offense to get him fired, mercifully. We finished 32nd, 22nd and 22nd in point over his last 3 years. Ken Zampese was only fired due to a mutiny headed by AJ Green. Kenny Anderson had to rip off 3 terrible seasons in a row (including our worst ever offensive season - 185 points) to get demoted. This old article about Kenny's demotion still holds true today: http://amarillo.com/stories/122700/spo_bengals.shtml#.Wg4MMEqnGM8 Quote:Posted: Wednesday, December 27, 2000
The training, nutrition, medicine, fitness, playbooks and rules evolve. The athlete does not.
11-16-2017, 07:37 PM
(11-16-2017, 02:24 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: Counting the postseason...he is 2-14 against the Steelers...AT HOME. Just unfrigging believable record and still be employed. What was the total 2nd half points for Bengals in playoffs before last Steelers game ? Like 16 or something ? just abysmal Does anybody have the actual stats for Merv's overall 2nd half point differential ?
11-16-2017, 08:15 PM
(11-16-2017, 07:14 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Well like you're saying, it's common sense to see the difference. Personally....I think he fired Wyche because they butted heads over personnel. He's the outlier. "Better send those refunds..."
11-16-2017, 08:24 PM
(11-16-2017, 08:15 PM)Wyche Wrote: Personally....I think he fired Wyche because they butted heads over personnel. He's the outlier. Yup ! Sam wasn't a fall right in line "YES" man so he had to go. Mike had some really good ideas he wanted to try - "lets try the DE's at TE, and why are we paying these interior O-linemen real money" ? And Sam was like Mike "shut the hell up and let us football guys handle the players".
11-16-2017, 08:28 PM
(11-16-2017, 08:15 PM)Wyche Wrote: Personally....I think he fired Wyche because they butted heads over personnel. He's the outlier. Right. Wyche probably wouldn't buy what Mike was selling. So it's been a steady stream of yes-men ever since. In reward for their compliance, they get perma-jobs.
The training, nutrition, medicine, fitness, playbooks and rules evolve. The athlete does not.
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