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Since Marvin announced he's stepping down so we need a coach, I believe it needs to be a new face outside of th2 orgabization..The guys that are here now aren't going to be able to motivate the team it's not a new face. There not motivating the players now..we need a hot head on the sidelines..someone that gets into the game.
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Should be an option for 'other', but if I had to choose out of those? Jon Gruden.
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It'll be Guenther.
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Don't get your hopes up. It's going to be an inside hire. The Bengals already seem to be suggesting that via media leaks.
The training, nutrition, medicine, fitness, playbooks and rules evolve. The athlete does not.
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(12-17-2017, 06:07 PM)Takedown Wrote: Should be an option for 'other', but if I had to choose out of those? Jon Gruden.
I meant to put it in there, couldn't figure out how to add it after it was posted.
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Somebody with no ties to the Bengals. A clean slate is what's needed.
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Wheres the Bill O'Brien option?
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None of the above.
I think I would go Jim Schwartz.
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Not Guenther, who's defense has allowed 400+ yards 5 times in the last 9 weeks and has continued down the crapper.
Not Lazor, who's offense has now been held to 276 or less yards 7 times in the last 9 weeks and looks completely lost.
Simmons? Been here for 15 years. No thanks. Haslett, Coyle? Hell to the no.
If Mike, Katie, Troy and Duke have any desire to compete for a Super Bowl one day...the coaching search HAS to concentrate on outside candidates, who can bring a fresh voice, approach and direction.
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(12-17-2017, 06:28 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: Not Guenther, who's defense has allowed 400+ yards 5 times in the last 9 weeks and has continued down the crapper.
Not Lazor, who's offense has now been held to 276 or less yards 7 times in the last 9 weeks and looks completely lost.
Simmons? Been here for 15 years. No thanks. Haslett, Coyle? Hell to the no.
If Mike, Katie, Troy and Duke have any desire to compete for a Super Bowl one day...the coaching search HAS to concentrate on outside candidates, who can bring a fresh voice, approach and direction.
Totally agree but we are dealing with the most stubborn, controling, slothlike sports owners in any sport.....I'm afraid the rumors are all true. I'm waiting on hearing it will be Simmons; This is Mikeys sweet spot to get a guy who is just grateful to get the opportunity on the cheap, and and wont ask for anything else.
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(12-17-2017, 06:16 PM)snowy Wrote: Somebody with no ties to the Bengals. A clean slate is what's needed.
This
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Here's a list of names I can come up with from outside the organization, which is where they should look (didn't include Hue and Vance):
Could be fired
Bill O'Brien (Texans)
Chuck Pagano (Colts)
Steve Spagnuolo (Giants)
Jay Gruden (Redskins)
Jim Caldwell (Lions)
Dirk Koetter (Bucs)
Ex Head Coaches
Jon Gruden
Rex Ryan
Brian Billick
Asstistant HC's
Brad Childress (Asst HC / Chiefs)
Winston Moss (Asst HC-LB's / Packers)
Raheem Morris (Asst HC-WR's / Falcons)
Offensive Coordinators
Josh McDaniels (Patriots)
Marty Mornhinweg (Ravens)
Todd Haley (Steelers)
Rod Chudzinski (Colts)
Terry Robiskie (Titans)
Matt Nagy (Chiefs)
Ken Whisenhunt (Chargers)
Scott Linehan (Cowboys)
Frank Reich (Eagles)
Jim Bob Cooter (Lions)
Edgar Bennett (Packers)
Pat Shurmur (Vikings)
Steve Sarkisian (Falcons)
Mike Shula (Panthers)
Pete Carmichael (Saints)
Harold Goodwin (Cardinals)
Matt LaFleur (Rams)
Darrell Bevell (Seahawks)
Defensive Coordinators
Matt Patricia (Patriots)
Gregg Williams (Browns)
Mike Vrabel (Texans)
Gus Bradley (Chargers)
Jim Schwartz (Eagles)
Teryl Austin (Lions)
Dom Capers (Packers)
Mike Smith (Bucs)
Wade Phillips (Rams)
Leslie Frazier (Bills)
Kris Richard (Seahawks)
Marquand Manuel (Falcons)
George Edwards (Vikings)
Position Coaches
Dave Toub (ST / Chiefs)
Mike Munchak (OL / Steelers)
Brian Schottenheimer (QB's / Colts)
Russ Grimm (OL / Titans)
Mike Tice (OL / Raiders)
Wade Wilson (QB's / Cowboys)
Alex Van Pelt (QB's / Packers)
Joe Lombardi (QB's / Saints)
Mike Nolan (LB's / Saints)
John DeFilippo (QB's / Eagles)
Bill Callahan (OL / Redskins)
College
Mark Dantonio (Michigan St)
David Shaw (Stanford)
Gary Patterson (TCU)
Cgris Peterson (Washington)
Pat Fitzgerald (Northwestern)
Paul Chryst (Wisconsin)
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(12-17-2017, 06:47 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: Here's a list of names I can come up with from outside the organization, which is where they should look (didn't include Hue and Vance):
Could be fired
Bill O'Brien (Texans)
Chuck Pagano (Colts)
Steve Spagnuolo (Giants)
Jay Gruden (Redskins)
John Fox (Bears)
Jim Caldwell (Lions)
Dirk Koetter (Bucs)
Ex Head Coaches
Jon Gruden
Rex Ryan
Brian Billick
Asstistant HC's
Brad Childress (Asst HC / Chiefs)
Winston Moss (Asst HC-LB's / Packers)
Raheem Morris (Asst HC-WR's / Falcons)
Offensive Coordinators
Josh McDaniels (Patriots)
Marty Mornhinweg (Ravens)
Todd Haley (Steelers)
Rod Chudzinski (Colts)
Terry Robiskie (Titans)
Matt Nagy (Chiefs)
Ken Whisenhunt (Chargers)
Scott Linehan (Cowboys)
Frank Reich (Eagles)
Jim Bob Cooter (Lions)
Edgar Bennett (Packers)
Pat Shurmur (Vikings)
Steve Sarkisian (Falcons)
Mike Shula (Panthers)
Pete Carmichael (Saints)
Harold Goodwin (Cardinals)
Matt LaFleur (Rams)
Darrell Bevell (Seahawks)
Defensive Coordinators
Matt Patricia (Patriots)
Gregg Williams (Browns)
Mike Vrabel (Texans)
Gus Bradley (Chargers)
Jim Schwartz (Eagles)
Teryl Austin (Lions)
Dom Capers (Packers)
Mike Smith (Bucs)
Wade Phillips (Rams)
Leslie Frazier (Bills)
Kris Richard (Seahawks)
Marquand Manuel (Falcons)
George Edwards (Vikings)
Position Coaches
Dave Toub (ST / Chiefs)
Mike Munchak (OL / Steelers)
Brian Schottenheimer (QB's / Colts)
Russ Grimm (OL / Titans)
Mike Tice (OL / Raiders)
Wade Wilson (QB's / Cowboys)
Alex Van Pelt (QB's / Packers)
Joe Lombardi (QB's / Saints)
Mike Nolan (LB's / Saints)
John DeFilippo (QB's / Eagles)
Bill Callahan (OL / Redskins)
College
Mark Dantonio (Michigan St)
David Shaw (Stanford)
Gary Patterson (TCU)
Cgris Peterson (Washington)
Pat Fitzgerald (Northwestern)
Paul Chryst (Wisconsin)
I’ll pick one from each category, bolded.
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The real question is what reputable coach wants the Bengals?
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(12-17-2017, 07:02 PM)GodFather Wrote: The real question is what reputable coach wants the Bengals?
One who wants to be a HC, I guess.
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(12-17-2017, 06:17 PM)corpjet Wrote: Wheres the Bill O'Brien option?
No to Bill O'Buttchin
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Well here we are,we've been complaining about a new direction for this team, and now MAYBE it will happen, but, I'm going to hold back on any comments until the fat lady sings. Waiting like everybody else! I just hope whomever we get as HC he got's tthe guts to put up with a sefless owner!
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