(12-20-2017, 12:19 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: And that's assuming that Jay Gruden would even have any desire to come to Cincinnati..
I think many are thinking that anyone who's ever been associated with the franchise are just chomping at the bit to get back here. When in reality, it's likely that some are glad to get away from such a dysfunctional system.
Yeah...it kind of sounds like many of the current assistants want out too.
(12-20-2017, 01:30 PM)McC Wrote: Good. If only PA was one of them.
Maybe he does. Maybe Paul wants to be a coordinator and knows it won't happen here. Maybe he wants to be a head coach and if it's not going to be here, then he's going elsewhere to try to become one.
(12-20-2017, 10:55 AM)XenoMorph Wrote: I don't think you remember the problem with gruden was tooo many passes that last season
In Gruden's last season (2013), we were 8th in the league in rush attempts and 12th in pass attempts.
(12-20-2017, 12:29 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Jay as Bengals HC is sort of an enigma for me. As a HC candidate, we could do far worse. However, the things that bother me is that his would be a lazy hire by Brown. If Mike goes through with a legitimate coaching search and comes back with Jay, that would allay my fears a little bit.
Then there's also the probability that Jay as HC means some or a lot of the current Cincy coaching staff comes back and as such, we're not really moving on from Merv.
I don't know if I'd switch teams if Jay is hired, but I don't like this move if it's made.
That is a legitimate worry, but I mainly just want Paul Alexander gone. If we hired Jay and replaced the o-line coach I'd be happy with that.
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(12-20-2017, 02:16 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: In Gruden's last season (2013), we were 8th in the league in rush attempts and 12th in pass attempts.
That is a legitimate worry, but I mainly just want Paul Alexander gone. If we hired Jay and replaced the o-line coach I'd be happy with that.
Gotta replace Haslett too. He's turned these LBs into worse garbage than they were before he came in.
Zac Taylor 2019-2020: 6 total wins
Zac Taylor 2021-2022: Double-digit wins each season, plus 5 postseason wins
Zac Taylor 2023: 9 wins despite losing Burrow half the season
Zac Taylor 2024: Started 1-4. If he can turn this into a playoff appearance, it will be impressive.
I don't see the connection to my post about Haslett?
Patricia or Kelly would come in as a head coach, not a LB coach.
A HC doesn't really spend much time actually coaching a certain position but is more like a director.
Case in point - Marvin Lewis was a LB coach for many years yet the LBs on his team since being a HC have been some of the worst.
Zac Taylor 2019-2020: 6 total wins
Zac Taylor 2021-2022: Double-digit wins each season, plus 5 postseason wins
Zac Taylor 2023: 9 wins despite losing Burrow half the season
Zac Taylor 2024: Started 1-4. If he can turn this into a playoff appearance, it will be impressive.
(12-20-2017, 04:19 PM)sandwedge Wrote: I couldn't tell you who is worse, Haslett or Coyle? Ever since Coyle took over the DBs again, they have been straight up dog crap!
What I've always been irritated with Coyle is it seems turnovers are not emphasized. I thought Vance Joseph got more out of the DBs.
Zac Taylor 2019-2020: 6 total wins
Zac Taylor 2021-2022: Double-digit wins each season, plus 5 postseason wins
Zac Taylor 2023: 9 wins despite losing Burrow half the season
Zac Taylor 2024: Started 1-4. If he can turn this into a playoff appearance, it will be impressive.
Of all the 'Bengal realistic' choices from current Bengal coaches to some unknown coordinator or college coach or to Hue, Jay would be my top choice easily.
(12-20-2017, 04:19 PM)sandwedge Wrote: I couldn't tell you who is worse, Haslett or Coyle? Ever since Coyle took over the DBs again, they have been straight up dog crap!
I'm with you on Coyle.. He sucks...
Haslett hard to tell... When burfict was in game LBers were great... but theres no one near his level to step in when he goes down or out for a few plays.
'A source is telling Pro Football Weekly that in spite of Marvin Lewis' denials of the report he'll be leaving the Bengals coaching job after the season, Bengals owner Mike Brown and company have been aware of the situation for weeks now and — contrary to other reports that have Brown possibly targeting Browns head coach Hue Jackson — we hear the guy he'd love to bring back is Gruden.
Our sources are telling us that even if Gruden isn't let go, the Bengals think highly enough of him that they might consider approaching Washington about a deal. Right now the Bengals are in wait-and-watch mode to see what Snyder's next move will be.'
Much better than Hue and he has done a pretty good job in Washington considering what he has had to deal with.
Offensive minded coach which right off the bat would be an improvement over Marvin. Our Defense has lots of good players i just hope if we bring in Jay he can pick his own coaches. No more sabotaging, if he can pick his own atleast we can judge him fairly.
All for Jay Gruden if we cannot get Bill O'Brien or Russ Grimm.
(12-20-2017, 04:19 PM)sandwedge Wrote: I couldn't tell you who is worse, Haslett or Coyle? Ever since Coyle took over the DBs again, they have been straight up dog crap!
Yeah, the secondary has been sketchy at best. It had seemed as if Coyle had everyone on the same page, the back half of 2016, but this year has been bad.
Which is odd, because when Miami poached him to be their DC, most fans on the board had a favorable opinion of his coaching in the secondary.
Volson is meh, but I like him, and he has far exceeded my expectations