Paul Daugherty: If Lewis is out, shouldn't Dalton follow?

[Nicomo Cosca]

(12-21-2017, 05:18 PM)Jakeypoo Wrote: Andy would still get you a lot in fact he will get a lot more than what people expect. Your looking at a proven Qb in the prime of his career vs an unknown player. Andy will be good for the next 5 to 10 years .

Idk about 10 years. He’s 30 now. Very few can do what Brady and Brees are doing.

[Utts]

When I think of Dalton years from now, I will see a picture in my mind of him running out of the pocket, and throwing the ball out of bounds.

[Nati#1]

Baker mayfield
Or
Kurt Benkert

[*Nately120*]

(12-22-2017, 05:22 AM)Nati#1 Wrote: Baker mayfield
Or
Kurt Benkert

Hmm, the latest Heisman curse QB or a guy with a name I would absolutely hate to have to hear or say for years to come...ouch.

[*PhilHos*]

(12-21-2017, 07:22 PM)Socal Bengals fan Wrote: if we bring up how good Dalton is because of his regular season rating,  does it go both ways, considering how terrible his rating is in the playoffs. im ready to move on , we have seen 7 years of this.

Yes, you can bring it up. It's a valid argument to make. However, I'm one of those who's willing to cut Dalton a little slack in his playoff performances considering that no QB has had a good playoff game under Merv.

(12-22-2017, 11:03 AM)Nately120 Wrote: Hmm, the latest Heisman curse QB or a guy with a name I would absolutely hate to have to hear or say for years to come...ouch.

What's wrong with Baker Mayfield's name?

[Shake n Blake]

(12-22-2017, 05:09 AM)Utts Wrote: When I think of Dalton years from now, I will see a picture in my mind of him running out of the pocket, and throwing the ball out of bounds.

I'll think of 60+ wins. I'll think of his comebacks vs the likes of Seattle and Green Bay. His ownage of the NFC and the AFC West.

I'll think of 5 TDs vs the Jets. His 27 games with 3+ TDs. His (Bengals record) 22 games with 300 yards. The clutch drive in Pittburgh to knock them out of the playoffs in 2012. Playing extremely well in prime-time losses to teams like Pitt and AZ. All the team records he shattered.

I'll also remember him as another player who choked under Marvin Lewis.

[*bfine32*]

(12-22-2017, 05:09 AM)Utts Wrote: When I think of Dalton years from now, I will see a picture in my mind of him running out of the pocket, and throwing the ball out of bounds.

(12-22-2017, 12:07 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: I'll think of 60+ wins. I'll think of his comebacks vs the likes of Seattle and Green Bay. His ownage of the NFC and the AFC West.

I'll think of 5 TDs vs the Jets. His 27 games with 3+ TDs. His (Bengals record) 22 games with 300 yards. The clutch drive in Pittburgh to knock them out of the playoffs in 2012. Playing extremely well in prime-time losses to teams like Pitt and AZ. All the team records he shattered.

I'll also remember him as another player who choked under Marvin Lewis.

Your guys memory will be better than mine as all I'll remember is the red hair. Sorta like KA all I remember is the porn-stache

[The Caped Crusader]

(12-22-2017, 05:00 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Your guys memory will be better than mine as all I'll remember is the red hair. Sorta like KA all I remember is the porn-stache

This.


I always thought the TV made it worse, but meeting him in person...it's extremely red.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(12-19-2017, 09:54 PM)Pat5775 Wrote: https://amp.cincinnati.com/amp/108714962?__twitter_impression=true

Oof... Some harsh words from Doc. However, he makes some valid points and I kind of agree with him. I like Dalton but let's be real: he's underwhelming and needs everything around him going perfect to be a consistently great QB. I'm ready for a fresh start, provided they approach this situation with some intelligence. As I said in another thread, address the Oline in round one. No matter what. Address the QB position in round 2, preferably Josh Allen and let him sit behind Dalton for awhile. I believe Dalton has two years remaining on his deal. Let him play it out while Allen learns behind him, or perhaps trade Dalton if Allen progresses nicely.

Another Dalton thread so it took awhile for me to check it out, sorry Pat.

As long as the O-line is really taken care of i could be down with taking a QB like Allen to sit behind Andy for a year or two.

Problem is, where Allen is projected is right where we can pick up one of the best Centers in the Draft...

So, i think we should stick with Dalton, fix the trenches and he will be fine.

[Pat5775]

(12-22-2017, 11:43 AM)PhilHos Wrote: What's wrong with Baker Mayfield's name?

He has two last names, that's what! 

Although, "Mayfield" isn't that common of a last name. At least I've never met any. Some of the better NFL QB's had very unique names. How many Montana's do you know? Or Marinos, Roethlisbergers, Esiasons, Unitas', Elways, Aikmans, Bledsoes, Brees', Fluties, Simms, Favres, Starrs, Moons, Tarkentons... you get the idea. 

Manning, Anderson and Brady are the exceptions. 

[Captain Happy Pants]

(12-22-2017, 05:22 AM)Nati#1 Wrote: Baker mayfield
Or
Kurt Benkert

I live in Charlottesville and have seen Benkert play. He's got a hell of an arm but he's wildly innacurate. Balls that he had no business throwing

[Shake n Blake]

(12-22-2017, 06:55 PM)Pat5775 Wrote: He has two last names, that's what! 

Although, "Mayfield" isn't that common of a last name. At least I've never met any. Some of the better NFL QB's had very unique names. How many Montana's do you know? Or Marinos, Roethlisbergers, Esiasons, Unitas', Elways, Aikmans, Bledsoes, Brees', Fluties, Simms, Favres, Starrs, Moons, Tarkentons... you get the idea. 

Manning, Anderson and Brady are the exceptions. 

I've know a Starr family, A couple Simms families and hot sisters with the Bledsoe name.

[Socal Bengals fan]

ill remember Dalton for his great pregame playoff speech of 2014. and second will be of him running on third down at the first sign of danger and throwing it out of bounds..good times i tell u

[Pat5775]

(12-22-2017, 08:27 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: I've know a Starr family, A couple Simms families and hot sisters with the Bledsoe name.

Now that you mention it, I did have a college professor with the last name Simms... And I know a Bradshaw family too. Coincidentally, the Bradshaws have two hot 25 year-old twin daughters 

[OB1]

I will remember the drop back, plant, and fire out of bounds plays. I will remember stat padding against the weak sisters of the NFL, and of course the predictable face planting anytime he played in a game of any magnitude.

I will also remember that the only other QB I have seen spark so much debate is one Jon Kitna...Makes sense to me.

[Steve]

(12-20-2017, 02:53 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Most of this post is demonstrably false and that's sad.

BTW, I'm just going to leave this here:
https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/nfl/bengals/2017/11/02/bill-polian-still-regrets-not-drafting-bengals-quarterback-andy-dalton-2011/826440001/

checkmate.....you win....
A.D. is a very good QB.....I agree he's not the problem.....

it's the O-line,
lack of a quality TE
def is not good on 3rd downs....
management won't sign quality FA

but if we could trade A.D. for a 2nd & a 3rd rd pick i'd do it....then start Driscol

[bengalsturntup926]

(12-23-2017, 12:50 AM)Steve Wrote: checkmate.....you win....
A.D. is a very good QB.....I agree he's not the problem.....

it's the O-line,
lack of a quality TE
def is not good on 3rd downs....
management won't sign quality FA

but if we could trade A.D. for a 2nd & a 3rd rd pick i'd do it....then start Driscol

Any serious driskel lover that would consider really starting him ,you have no football iq.  No wonder you love dalton.

[McC]

(12-23-2017, 01:02 AM)bengalsturntup926 Wrote: Any serious driskel lover that would consider really starting him ,you have no football iq.  No wonder you love dalton.

I just love the jovial way you have of expressing yourself.

[Steve]

(12-21-2017, 02:52 AM)Storer50 Wrote: Can this team still pick a qb in the 1st,and fix the line in this draft? All of the mocks I have been doing on fanspeak have one of the big qb's available at 8.  Rebuilding the line to me hinges on moving back into the 1st for brown, the tackle from Oklahoma, and then Billy price in the 2nd at center. Maybe pick up Boettiger and Quessenberry in the later rounds, but they are definitely not immediate impact guys.  Sadly, without some real free agent help, this team can't get back to the playoffs on this draft alone.

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Price will be picked in the lower 1st rd....
21- 30 range
I do not want a QB in this draft....
fix the O-line...
#1 OG Nelson
#2 OT Martinas Rankin miss st.
# 3  S Jodan Whitehead pitt
#4 OT Desmond Harrison west Georgia
OC in FA...  I hope

[Steve]

(12-23-2017, 01:02 AM)bengalsturntup926 Wrote: Any serious driskel lover that would consider really starting him ,you have no football iq.  No wonder you love dalton.

well man that's just like your opinion.....

said the dude....

when Driscoll played he looked great.....
that's all I needed to see...