Illuminati

[Tiger Teeth]

(01-24-2018, 09:50 PM)Benton Wrote: Illuminati are just a rumor to distract you from the micro organisms who have infiltrated our world. They control EVERYTHING. That's why the rise in eye surgeries, the micro-gods have been slowly damaging our eye sight for decades so it makes it harder to detect them. If you can't see them, you can't stop them.

I knew it!  

[treee]

(01-24-2018, 07:39 PM)grampahol Wrote: There have always been organized groups intent on setting forth some kind of nefarious agendas. I have very little faith that any of them have ever had my best interest at heart heart, but instead consolidation of wealth and power to serve themselves at the expense of the rest of us.
The type of person who would belong to such groups in my opinion are very psychotic, sel and could care less who has to die to further their plans. Right now we have several around the world consolidating power and money while trying to convince us that only the very rich are worthy of power and the rest of us not capable of caring enough and blah blah blah..

Some people are scared of mob mentality. Some are scared of an authoritarian. Some are scared of both.

[Shake n Blake]

(01-18-2018, 04:23 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: I do think such an organization exists, but unsure about these people on the list. Also, 9/11 would not really serve their purpose. But, maybe it could? I could see many angles where it would pertain. I do think their are demons that walk among us (which would cover your Antichrist referral). As a matter of fact, one of the only people who went with God without dying was Enoch, and his book (which is not in the 66 books of the bible) explains a lot in terms of demons interacting with mankind. Not quite like that Rowdy Roddy Piper movie (can't think of the name - and no time to google it). But I can see where they got the idea. I didn't mean to make this religion, but my reference left me no choice.

If the Illuminati does or doesn't exist, I'm sure there is something similar. As long as there is power, there will always be someone trying to gain more of it.

Yep.

(01-23-2018, 03:43 PM)Wyche Wrote: Bilderberg Group......Rothschilds, Rockefeller, others.

And yep.

I don't necessarily believe in the "Illuminati" or some of the list of people in it, but I do think the possibility of a secret society is feasible and maybe even likely. What are those Bilderberg meetings all about? Why the secrecy with armed guards? What's up with George Soros throwing so much money to push certain agenda's in a country he doesn't even live in? We're talking hundreds of millions of dollars to fund protesters and pay for commercials, etc. Why?

[HarleyDog]

(01-26-2018, 01:18 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Yep.


And yep.

I don't necessarily believe in the "Illuminati" or some of the list of people in it, but I do think the possibility of a secret society is feasible and maybe even likely. What are those Bilderberg meetings all about? Why the secrecy with armed guards? What's up with George Soros throwing so much money to push certain agenda's in a country he doesn't even live in? We're talking hundreds of millions of dollars to fund protesters and pay for commercials, etc. Why?

There is an agenda and although many would think I'm a tad-bit crazy, I believe it all revolves around the 66th book.  Which, I hope and pray I will not be a part of. There is manipulation in this world unmeasurable. Money is power. We live in a society which is now addicted to social media, convenience and normalcy. Most people today have been fortunate enough to avoid scarcity, depression and hunger. The silver spoon (either rich or poor in our typical towns) has reached our society where ignorance trumps fear. Disrespect stomps on the head of respect and individualism runs within. History is forgotten by many and Hollywood is GOD to many teens along with musicians.

When stuff goes down in this country (and eventually will) people will cave on the first few days. Without above mentioned, people's spirits will crumble. Imagine a country without power, cell phones and internet? I was cool without 2 of the 3 many years ago and was fine. After a few days without power (which has happened a few times due to ice storms, etc) I can learn to adjust. 

I guess my point is, we are an ignorant (in part) U.S. society. There is so much corruption in our government on both the national and local levels it's sickening. There will be a time when we have to defend to the death everything again on our own land. Many of our sons, daughters and wives will be murdered in the process. Many lives will be lost. So, whatever entity, whatever it's name, is really irrelevant. We will get there soon enough, so, enjoy the day and if tomorrow comes? Enjoy it too.

[fredtoast]

(01-18-2018, 04:23 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: If the Illuminati does or doesn't exist, I'm sure there is something similar. As long as there is power, there will always be someone trying to gain more of it.

But the most powerful are too greedy to share.  They can never work together to run everything because they are fighting amongst each other for ultimate control.

[HarleyDog]

(01-26-2018, 07:29 PM)fredtoast Wrote: But the most powerful are too greedy to share.  They can never work together to run everything because they are fighting amongst each other for ultimate control.

All that is needed there is a head piece. As long as you are under the impression that your interest's are directed and your interest's are defended? There can be sovereignty. 

[treee]

(01-26-2018, 01:18 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Yep.


And yep.

I don't necessarily believe in the "Illuminati" or some of the list of people in it, but I do think the possibility of a secret society is feasible and maybe even likely. What are those Bilderberg meetings all about? Why the secrecy with armed guards? What's up with George Soros throwing so much money to push certain agenda's in a country he doesn't even live in? We're talking hundreds of millions of dollars to fund protesters and pay for commercials, etc. Why?

It's not just Soros. Pretty much any foreign government with money to spend is trying to influence U.S. policy. It's why I'm so glad that Russia is in the scopes. There is a LOT of dirty money over there and I'm sure some of it has made it to the pockets of our politicians.

[Shake n Blake]

(01-27-2018, 06:13 PM)treee Wrote: It's not just Soros. Pretty much any foreign government with money to spend is trying to influence U.S. policy. It's why I'm so glad that Russia is in the scopes. There is a LOT of dirty money over there and I'm sure some of it has made it to the pockets of our politicians.

Not hard to get this country all out of whack with how dominant our media (including the social variety) is these days. The stuff with Facebook was pretty scary. I'm a skeptical type, so I wouldn't fall for it...but so many of FB are so gullible. People don't like the term "fake news", but there really is an abundance of misinformation, exaggerations and outright lies to sift through lately. How much of that is the doing of foreign governments like Russia, idk, but I'm sure they're involved in a decent % of it for whatever reason. 

It's almost like a new form of terrorism. Fake news + gullible people = mass hysteria. Our own media feeds right into it out of greed and lack of integrity in journalism.

[grampahol]

(01-28-2018, 12:39 AM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Not hard to get this country all out of whack with how dominant our media (including the social variety) is these days. The stuff with Facebook was pretty scary. I'm a skeptical type, so I wouldn't fall for it...but so many of FB are so gullible. People don't like the term "fake news", but there really is an abundance of misinformation, exaggerations and outright lies to sift through lately. How much of that is the doing of foreign governments like Russia, idk, but I'm sure they're involved in a decent % of it for whatever reason. 

It's almost like a new form of terrorism. Fake news + gullible people = mass hysteria. Our own media feeds right into it out of greed and lack of integrity in journalism.

Fake news isn't new. It's been around for a very long time. It's prominence in today's society and the way it's packaged and sold to us has changed a bit, but it's not new.
Just the mere term of the 1% is misleading because it's much less than 1%. 
The good news is there are many more of us than there are of them.

There's been speculation that WWII was fabricated to protect the wealth of the elites and Hitler rose to power as a bulwark to protect them from the Bolsheviks . The kings and queens and others in the European monarchies were absolutely terrified by the fate that became of the Russian royalty so they financed (as did many of US elites such as Henry Ford, Rockefellers , Bush family and the Dulles brothers, etc.)  the Nazi party to protect themselves from the rising tide of the working classes .
To muddy the waters further we've demonized the very idea of socialism and sold on the notion that capitalism will always be inclusive to all of us when in fact it's mostly controlled by a very small group of people who have no qualms whatsoever of killing off millions upon millions of people if it means losing their fortunes to the likes of us . Most people don't know who Smedly Butler was, but if it hadn't been for him the United States may very well have become a Nazi state. There truly was a plot to overthrow FDR and Butler was the hand picked man to pull it off except for  the fact that Butler blew the whistle on the plot and refused to play along.
If you want to see something very interesting about global power and the reasons behind wars of conquest watch Everything is a rich man's trick.

https://youtu.be/sqxq03izxrQ

You probably won't agree with nor even believe much of it, but there's a lot of thought provoking stuff everyone ought to watch  

[fredtoast]

(01-26-2018, 07:35 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: All that is needed there is a head piece. As long as you are under the impression that your interest's are directed and your interest's are defended? There can be sovereignty. 

Not sure what your point is here.

what I am sayiung is that if all the wealthy were wroking together then they would want to produce as much wealth for themselves as possible, but instead we constantly see wars destroying wealth and markets and large corporations ripping each other off.  To many resources being wasted in conflicts for me to believe that everyone at the top is working together.

I am not saying that anyone at the top is fighting for the interest of the common person, but they are fighting with each other instead of working together.

The people who are driven to reach the top want it all for themself.  they don't want to share with the few other people at the top.

[grampahol]

Certainly not everyone with X amount of dollars, pounds, rubels or yen are working towards the exact same goals anymore than everyone with $1.38 in their pocket is..
We don't fight wars over ethics, religion or any of the silly nonsense we're lead to think they're about. They're almost always, with very few exceptions fought over money and power to control it which includes such things as resources, labor , transportation routes and so forth . Does anybody think we actually go to war because someone in Yakohookaville worships the tooth fairy ? Of course not. The residents of Yakohookaville are sitting on a gold mine and everyone else is willing to kill them to control it . ALL wars are bankers wars plain and  simple and bankers rely on an uninformed public to play along.  Always have and always will .. 
When you get right down to it think about money. It's worth nothing by itself ,but because a banker says it's worth X we believe it, but try sticking a Japanese yen in the little cash box at Kroger the next time you use the self checkout line and see how far that gets you. It's still money, but because our bankers don't want us mixing their currency with Japanese bankers currency it doesn't work  ...In an ideal world they would automatically figure out the exchange rate and you could take your butter and go home .Good luck trying it at your neighborhood friendly grocers freezer  ..