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Interesting article and thought it would provide good discussion.
Bengals come in at 12 out of 13, just behind the Bills.
Quote:12. Cincinnati Bengals (0-2): After five consecutive one-and-done playoff appearances between 2011 and 2015, they've regressed, losing nine games each of the past two seasons. Yet coach Marvin Lewis remains, incredibly, despite an 0-7 postseason record and a team that regularly lets its lack of discipline trump fairly significant talent. Not much to indicate a sea change is forthcoming, though the players do deserve credit for a strong finish to 2017, when it seemed like Lewis was certainly on the chopping block.
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That's fair. The Marvin Lewis handicap is something that cannot be ignored... Otherwise, we could/should be higher on that list.
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It's mere opinion. It's kind of tough to predict the future about things that have never happened before.
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(02-01-2018, 01:45 PM)Pat5775 Wrote: That's fair. The Marvin Lewis handicap is something that cannot be ignored... Otherwise, we could/should be higher on that list.
They ranked the Browns ahead of us, tho. 
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I'd place us dead last, honestly. I don't know much about the owners of the other teams on that list, but I'd wager ours is the only one who openly states that his goal is to get back to being "where we were a few years ago" aka one-and-done in the playoffs. The goal is to get back to being 12th place? Indeed.
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I'd swap 5 and 6, and 7 and 8. Then, I'd move Buffalo ahead of Cleveland, and us last.
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(02-01-2018, 02:32 PM)Nately120 Wrote: I'd place us dead last, honestly. I don't know much about the owners of the other teams on that list, but I'd wager ours is the only one who openly states that his goal is to get back to being "where we were a few years ago" aka one-and-done in the playoffs. The goal is to get back to being 12th place? Indeed.
(02-01-2018, 02:44 PM)Wyche Wrote: I'd swap 5 and 6, and 7 and 8. Then, I'd move Buffalo ahead of Cleveland, and us last.
I have a hard time putting Cleveland ahead of us, even with the unheard of post-season crap-fest....guess question is would it be easier to luck into a franchise QB (Browns) or SB (Bengals/Browns)?
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(02-01-2018, 01:53 PM)Hoofhearted Wrote: They ranked the Browns ahead of us, tho.
As long as Mike Brown keeps Marvin Lewis on staff (i.e. For the rest of Mike Brown's life, at the very least), the Browns have a better chance of winning a super bowl
Yeah I said. And I'm only exaggerating a little bit
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(02-01-2018, 03:01 PM)Hoofhearted Wrote: I have a hard time putting Cleveland ahead of us, even with the unheard of post-season crap-fest....guess question is would it be easier to luck into a franchise QB (Browns) or SB (Bengals/Browns)?
As long as it's the Mike and Merv show......I'm leaning Browns.
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(02-01-2018, 03:56 PM)Wyche Wrote: As long as it's the Mike and Merv show......I'm leaning Browns.
Agree
As long as Mikey is running the show we have no chance ! I'd put us last and I'm not kidding.
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(02-01-2018, 03:06 PM)Pat5775 Wrote: As long as Mike Brown keeps Marvin Lewis on staff (i.e. For the rest of Mike Brown's life, at the very least), the Browns have a better chance of winning a super bowl
Yeah I said. And I'm only exaggerating a little bit
I don't know what you all are smoking...
but the browns cant even win a game
its nice to bash the team and all... but be somewhat realistic about it.
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(02-01-2018, 01:53 PM)Hoofhearted Wrote: They ranked the Browns ahead of us, tho.
Thats shocking. Hugh is worse than Marv.
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(02-01-2018, 04:22 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: I don't know what you all are smoking...
but the browns cant even win a game
its nice to bash the team and all... but be somewhat realistic about it.
Thing about the Browns is they were in a lot of games last year. They have a good line, plus weapons at WR, TE, and RB. Their front 4 is good, and they have talent on the back end. The Browns have a ton of cap space, and also have a boatload of picks, including #1 and #4 this year. The bottom line is they can turn it around quickly. It sounds crazy to say it, but I see the Browns as a legitimate Wild Card team in 2019.
Through 2023
Mike Brown’s Owner/GM record: 32 years 223-303-4 .419 winning pct.
Playoff Record: 5-9, .357 winning pct.
Zac Taylor coaching record, reg. season: 37-44-1. .455 winning pct.
Playoff Record: 5-2, .714 winning pct.
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(02-01-2018, 05:00 PM)t3r3e3 Wrote: Thing about the Browns is they were in a lot of games last year. They have a good line, plus weapons at WR, TE, and RB. Their front 4 is good, and they have talent on the back end. The Browns have a ton of cap space, and also have a boatload of picks, including #1 and #4 this year. The bottom line is they can turn it around quickly. It sounds crazy to say it, but I see the Browns as a legitimate Wild Card team in 2019.
and the browns will end up overpaying some bums just to met the floor...
Dude it will be a pleasant surprise if the browns win 9 games between now and 2020.
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(02-01-2018, 05:02 PM)XenoMorph Wrote: and the browns will end up overpaying some bums just to met the floor...
Dude it will be a pleasant surprise if the browns win 9 games between now and 2020.
If they hit a homerun at QB in the draft, or get a good one in FA, look out. They've got the cap space to make some moves, with Dorsey at GM, the next few years (what they set up for when they dumped everyone) could get interesting.
Meanwhile, we've got the 0-fer clan running things here. Had there been actual change in Cincinnati this offseason, my outlook wouldn't be so grim.
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Just want to point out that the Browns have won a playoff game more recently than we have (94 vs 90)
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(02-01-2018, 06:04 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Just want to point out that the Browns have won a playoff game more recently than we have (94 vs 90)
That franchise now is the ravens though.
do the new browns get all their accolades because the name stayed the same? or do they stay with the franchise?
I'm not trying to argue against the browns on that playoff win just curious how that works.... For instance the rams franchised moved to LA if they changed their name and a new rams formed in St Louis... Would the new ST Louis rams still have a super bowl title in their trophy case or did that go to LA?
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(02-01-2018, 02:12 PM)bengalhoel Wrote: The Eagles!!
Yep, pretty much.
You got to be in the game, in order to even have a shot at winning it.
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(02-01-2018, 01:15 PM)Hoofhearted Wrote: Interesting article and thought it would provide good discussion.
Bengals come in at 12 out of 13, just behind the Bills.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha - we're behind the f'n Browns. OMG, what an embarrassment that is. 
People can say Marvin Lewis all they want, but it's Mike Brown's presence in the front office that saps everyone's confidence in this franchise.
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