The Raiders = Bengals West

[Shake n Blake]

Brandon LaFell just signed with the Raiders. Their roster now includes:

AJ McCarron
Brandon LaFell
Leon Hall
Reggie Nelson
Emmanuel Lamur
Frostee Rucker
Mike Nugent

13% of their 53 man roster is former Bengals. Full disclosure: I didn't even know Frostee was still playing.

[*pally*]

Yeah, the old and broken Bengals west

[CornerBlitz]

Only difference being i'd actually have faith that our front office would retain the services of a player like Khalil Mack.

[Shake n Blake]

(09-03-2018, 02:53 PM)pally Wrote: Yeah, the old and broken Bengals west

Lol pretty much.

[HarleyDog]

(09-03-2018, 02:54 PM)CornerBlitz Wrote: Only difference being i'd actually have faith that our front office would retain the services of a player like Khalil Mack.

Dumb move by Oakland. Really dumb!

[Sweetness]

(09-03-2018, 03:03 PM)HarleyDog Wrote: Dumb move by Oakland. Really dumb!

Idk. You can't give 20% of your income to 1 player. Mack is great but I'd bet you can get close to the same production from exponentially cheaper players.

[HarleyDog]

(09-03-2018, 03:08 PM)Sweetness Wrote: Idk. You can't give 20% of your income to 1 player. Mack is great but I'd bet you can get close to the same production from exponentially cheaper players.

I get your point.  :andy:

[Shake n Blake]

Mack got 6 years, $141 million. Highest paid defender in the NFL. Raiders couldn't afford that with their cap situation. To pull out a pair of 1st rounders and a 3rd rounder (from a team that's likely to be bad), was a very good haul. Understandably, there's been a very emotional response to the trade, but from a logical standpoint, it makes perfect sense.

Makes me appreciate (even more) the Bengals finding ways to keep their top guys though. We've rarely had issues there.

[*pally*]

We forget T Justin Murray who was claimed off of waivers on Sunday. That makes it 15% of the Raiders roster + 1 coordinator

[corpjet]

(09-03-2018, 03:53 PM)pally Wrote: We forget T Justin Murray who was claimed off of waivers on Sunday.  That makes it 15% of the Raiders roster + 1 coordinator

I was going to say don't forget the D Coordinator.... :andy:

Also their LBers coach is David Lippincot, another former coach here....

[*jason*]

Jordy Nelson is their AJ Hawk...

[I_C_DeadPeople]

Rucker and Lemur? Are you guys shitting me?

[I_C_DeadPeople]

(09-03-2018, 03:08 PM)Sweetness Wrote: Idk. You can't give 20% of your income to 1 player. Mack is great but I'd bet you can get close to the same production from exponentially cheaper players.

One could argue Mack is as valuable as any QB but any team can really only afford one of these contracts but the Rams and Bears both have QBs on rookie details. Raiders will have to pay big bucks to Carr soon.

[BURROWorBUST]

(09-03-2018, 04:17 PM)I_C_DeadPeople Wrote: Rucker and Lemur? Are you guys shitting me?

Yeah, Zimmer cut Lemur. Chucky thought he'd be a good replacement for Mack. 

[bengal kitten uk]

(09-03-2018, 03:08 PM)Sweetness Wrote: Idk. You can't give 20% of your income to 1 player. Mack is great but I'd bet you can get close to the same production from exponentially cheaper players.

Maybe not 20% of your income, but you *can* give an average of 10.67% of your cap across the length of the contract to one player.  Especially if they are arguably the best at their position in the league.

[Millhouse]

Why can't the Raiders learn the alphabet?

Because they are always lost at C.


  


 

[Whatever]

(09-03-2018, 04:32 PM)bengal kitten uk Wrote: Maybe not 20% of your income, but you *can* give an average of 10.67% of your cap across the length of the contract to one player.  Especially if they are arguably the best at their position in the league.

Mack was tied for 15th in the league in sacks last year, though.  He is a great player, but he's not worth what he got, especially when you consider the draft picks the Bears were forced to give up to get him.

[SunsetBengal]

(09-03-2018, 05:33 PM)Whatever Wrote: Mack was tied for 15th in the league in sacks last year, though.  He is a great player, but he's not worth what he got, especially when you consider the draft picks the Bears were forced to give up to get him.

What's even more funny, is that my two friends that happen to be Bears fans are celebrating like they just got Lawrence Taylor.  I tried to remind them about that crippling contract, and the loss of consecutive 1st round picks having a negative impact on their future.  Their response?  We don't care, we're going all the way this year or next.  It'll be worth it.

[Shake n Blake]

(09-03-2018, 04:17 PM)I_C_DeadPeople Wrote: Rucker and Lemur? Are you guys shitting me?

Rucker is the one that really surprised me. I had to look it up to see how old he is (almost 35).

(09-03-2018, 05:33 PM)Whatever Wrote: Mack was tied for 15th in the league in sacks last year, though.  He is a great player, but he's not worth what he got, especially when you consider the draft picks the Bears were forced to give up to get him.

In all, the Bears gave a pair of 1st rounders, a 3rd rounder and $141 million over 6 years.

It was a move to generate (casual) fan excitement, but it wasn't a smart move from a team standpoint, IMO.

[*jason*]

(09-03-2018, 05:57 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: What's even more funny, is that my two friends that happen to be Bears fans are celebrating like they just got Lawrence Taylor.  I tried to remind them about that crippling contract, and the loss of consecutive 1st round picks having a negative impact on their future.  Their response?  We don't care, we're going all the way this year or next.  It'll be worth it.

Allen Robinson y'all...