Posts: 19,654
Threads: 144
Reputation:
162297
Joined: May 2015
Location: Covington, Ky
(09-09-2019, 11:09 PM)McC Wrote: He gave up one long pass. And on that play, he was there, he had just neglected to grow four more inches. What else did he do that was so bad? Wilson only completed 14 passes.
I didn't see anything other than that pass. If your guy isn't catching the ball, you'd think he was playing pretty well. Like you said, he was step for step. Just fell as the ball arrived. *PFF grader* "omg! he fell! minus 20 for you!!!"
It's why i don't take any ratings from PFF seriously.
"The measure of a man's intelligence can be seen in the length of his argument."
Posts: 19,663
Threads: 633
Reputation:
85402
Joined: Oct 2016
(09-09-2019, 11:09 PM)McC Wrote: He gave up one long pass. And on that play, he was there, he had just neglected to grow four more inches. What else did he do that was so bad? Wilson only completed 14 passes.
Thinking it was Willis or Williams not WJ3.
Posts: 19,663
Threads: 633
Reputation:
85402
Joined: Oct 2016
(09-09-2019, 11:05 PM)Joelist Wrote: Typical PFF nonsense. Willis gets a crazy low rating for no reason as does Miller. The Dalton rating is also ridiculous. Likewise the Gio rating.
No clue on Gio. He seemed to do a good job on blitz pickup too, which is a component.
I saw a detailed description of Dalton's rating. I know they marked him down for the one Boyd appeared to slip on. Boyd slipped because the ball was thrown to the wrong spot and he was coming back.
Also 1 of the Ross TD's got him marked down because the throw wasn't good. But Ross made a good play.
Not saying I fully agree with this...but it's some context as to why he wasn't rated higher.
Posts: 19,663
Threads: 633
Reputation:
85402
Joined: Oct 2016
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Posts: 19,663
Threads: 633
Reputation:
85402
Joined: Oct 2016
(09-09-2019, 11:04 PM)bfine32 Wrote: ...or if they gave up a couple 1st rounders for that Turnstile Tunsil dude.
Stills who just scored a TD was in that trade too.
Saffold would have been a signing and not required a pick. Plus, with us basically copying the Rams system, he would have fit nicely here.
Posts: 19,663
Threads: 633
Reputation:
85402
Joined: Oct 2016
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Posts: 19,654
Threads: 144
Reputation:
162297
Joined: May 2015
Location: Covington, Ky
(09-09-2019, 11:17 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: No clue on Gio. He seemed to do a good job on blitz pickup too, which is a component.
I saw a detailed description of Dalton's rating. I know they marked him down for the one Boyd appeared to slip on. Boyd slipped because the ball was thrown to the wrong spot and he was coming back.
Also 1 of the Ross TD's got him marked down because the throw wasn't good. But Ross made a good play.
Not saying I fully agree with this...but it's some context as to why he wasn't rated higher.
Those PFF graders have no damn business deciding where a ball should have been thrown, unless they're former QBs and the know exactly what play was called and where the receiver should be.
It's why they shouldn't be taken seriously.
"The measure of a man's intelligence can be seen in the length of his argument."
Posts: 19,663
Threads: 633
Reputation:
85402
Joined: Oct 2016
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Posts: 19,663
Threads: 633
Reputation:
85402
Joined: Oct 2016
(09-09-2019, 11:20 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Those PFF graders have no damn business deciding where a ball should have been thrown, unless they're former QBs and the know exactly what play was called and where the receiver should be.
It's why they shouldn't be taken seriously.
Joe Goodberry on Twitter does a really detailed writeup of that play and agrees with PFF on that particular play.
Posts: 19,663
Threads: 633
Reputation:
85402
Joined: Oct 2016
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Posts: 19,663
Threads: 633
Reputation:
85402
Joined: Oct 2016
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Posts: 19,663
Threads: 633
Reputation:
85402
Joined: Oct 2016
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Posts: 19,654
Threads: 144
Reputation:
162297
Joined: May 2015
Location: Covington, Ky
(09-09-2019, 11:22 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Joe Goodberry on Twitter does a really detailed writeup of that play and agrees with PFF on that particular play.
Has Joe Goodberry played the position? Was he in the huddle? Did he take the snap and have to throw the ball against that D?
No?
Joe Goodberry can go suck on one. He's dead to me, as far as i care.
"The measure of a man's intelligence can be seen in the length of his argument."
Posts: 19,663
Threads: 633
Reputation:
85402
Joined: Oct 2016
(09-09-2019, 11:28 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Has Joe Goodberry played the position? Was he in the huddle? Did he take the snap and have to throw the ball against that D?
No?
Joe Goodberry can go suck on one. He's dead to me, as far as i care.
Do you want me to stop posting PFF stuff?
Posts: 19,654
Threads: 144
Reputation:
162297
Joined: May 2015
Location: Covington, Ky
(09-09-2019, 11:22 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Joe Goodberry on Twitter does a really detailed writeup of that play and agrees with PFF on that particular play.
Let me make one thing clear.
I love PFF for the next gen/stat adjusted stuff. Love their numbers.
I don't give two shits about their opinions.
"The measure of a man's intelligence can be seen in the length of his argument."
Posts: 19,663
Threads: 633
Reputation:
85402
Joined: Oct 2016
(09-09-2019, 11:29 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Let me make one thing clear.
I love PFF for the next gen/stat adjusted stuff. Love their numbers.
I don't give two shits about their opinions.
I probably wouldn't ding a QB on a TD throw either. But, it's a pretty decent metric for evaluating guys.
People seem to love the Hopkins rating.
The thing is, we could run the ball and gave up pressure on 35% of plays. That's going to effect a QB and ratings.
Posts: 19,663
Threads: 633
Reputation:
85402
Joined: Oct 2016
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Posts: 15,003
Threads: 121
Reputation:
48097
Joined: May 2015
Location: Hyborea
Nah. PFF is generally good for snorts and giggles.
For them to penalize on a play that the players involved already said isn't what they think it is is typical.
Posts: 19,663
Threads: 633
Reputation:
85402
Joined: Oct 2016
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Posts: 19,663
Threads: 633
Reputation:
85402
Joined: Oct 2016
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
|
![[Image: 4CV0TeR.png]](https://i.imgur.com/4CV0TeR.png)
