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"The Bengals don’t feel it’s their job to make other teams better."
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(10-28-2019, 11:28 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Not sure why you’re making such a definitive statement. It’s very likely he re-signs here.

Everyone said the same thing about Whit.

Someone is going to beat the 5 year 21 million offer they've got on the table.
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#42
No one has ever accused this team of being smart about personnel decisions. From top to bottom they fail on all levels - business, personnel, etc.
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(10-28-2019, 12:40 PM)Mike M (the other one) Wrote: Why?
Bengals are one of the best at honoring contracts thru the end. If he gets a 3 year deal, it's pretty much guaranteed for all 3 years. Other teams sign and cut after a year.

That is what we call becoming BENGALIZED. Money and Loyalty first....winning is optional.
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The problem with this front office is, and has always been, the same - laziness, complacency and incompetence. 

The bigger problem though, is that this front office isn't going anywhere or changing anytime soon. Mike, Katie, Troy, Paul and Duke are what we're stuck with, and what will probably be stuck with for the foreseeable future. 

Even when Mike steps aside / retires, I think there's good reason to believe that the rest will remain equally as inept.
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(10-28-2019, 12:46 PM)jj22 Wrote: Everyone said the same thing about Whit.

Someone is going to beat the 5 year 21 million offer they've got on the table.

Wait...what? When was that offer made? Source? Link?
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Jets just traded Leonard Williams to the Giants for a 3rd and 5th round pick.

Idiots. I guess the Jets feel it's their job to make their bitter, cross-town rivals better.
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Typical Mike. He's the reason I haven't watched a game this year. I'm done until his actions are worthy of my fandom. Btw, this is probably a good spot to post this: https://nfltraderumors.co/bengals-redskins-still-refusing-to-engage-in-meaningful-trade-talks/

"They are basically philosophically opposed to the idea of making trades" One NFC GM said. "It's a waste of time to call them, but we did. And it is what it is. You may as well be speaking a different language".

All I can say is that Mike is a "different" dude and we as a fanbase suffer because of it. TO was right back in 2010 when he said the problems start from the top. It trickles down to everything else. None of us want to hear it, but as long as Mike is running this team, there is no hope.
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Remember this little gem from Zac's introductory press conference?

Mike Brown Wrote:But these young guys are energetic, open-minded, up with the trends, open to new ideas, and they listen. I think that’s a good thing.

I'm not seeing open-mindedness or new ideas here.
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(10-28-2019, 02:55 PM)Bengalholic Wrote:  

LMAO you can only go up from 0-8, so they're already looking to win a couple games down the stretch and spin this season's failures as all due to injury. Hobspin is probably warming up his typewriter already. This team has spun the dead cat bounce so many times it's pathetic.
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(10-28-2019, 03:08 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: LMAO you can only go up from 0-8, so they're already looking to win a couple games down the stretch and spin this season's failures as all due to injury. Hobspin is probably warming up his typewriter already. This team has spun the dead cat bounce so many times it's pathetic.

And it's not like it just started this season. This team has been going the wrong direction for 4 years now (19-36-1). 
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(10-28-2019, 03:18 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: And it's not like it just started this season. This team has been going the wrong direction for 4 years now (19-36-1). 

We're 1-15 last 16! 1-15.

December last year was our last win! Almost a year without a win!
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(10-28-2019, 10:10 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: This is crazy. They're totally oblivious to the fact that draft picks can help them.

But, when we lose a player to free agency...they tout the Compensatory pick like it's gold and riches beyond measure!

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Apparently, it's not their job to make their own team better either.

 
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#54
What a moronic statement. Trades aren’t a zero sum game. Both teams can get better from a fair trade.
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Redskins said they don't want to be lumped in with that fool MB.
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(10-28-2019, 01:40 PM)RunKijanaRun Wrote: Jets just traded Leonard Williams to the Giants for a 3rd and 5th round pick.

Idiots. I guess the Jets feel it's their job to make their bitter, cross-town rivals better.

Not even cross-town. Literally in-stadium rivals. Although since they are in different conferences, maybe they are friends?
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(10-28-2019, 10:10 AM)THE PISTONS Wrote: This is crazy. They're totally oblivious to the fact that draft picks can help them.

But, when we lose a player to free agency...they tout the Compensatory pick like it's gold and riches beyond measure!

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I don’t have any problem with him saying this IF we didn’t have any solid offers. He’s right, just because were bad doesn’t mean we should give our stars away for 3rd-4th round picks. However it’s been reported the packers offered a 1st and 3rd which is definitely a very solid offer for 1/2 year of AJ.

Sometimes good teams feel like bad teams should just hand over their good players, especially in baseball, when they are out of it. He’s right it’s not a bad teams job to make good teams better, but when the offer makes us younger, cheaper and gives more team control and when the player is aging, oft injured and in the last year of his deal-it only makes sense to take a first rounder plus and jump start the rebuild.

That offer isn’t another team trying to screw us or that feels their entitled to our stars because we’re 0-8. This is a team willing to pay a fair price or even overpay for AJ. Just take the gift they are offering and look towards the future
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This statement is even better when you see multiple former Bengals on teams in and winning the SB.
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(10-28-2019, 03:18 PM)Bengalholic Wrote: And it's not like it just started this season. This team has been going the wrong direction for 4 years now (19-36-1). 

This season they drove off a cliff though. And they haven't hit bottom yet.

 
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