***Week 11 GameDay Thread - Bengals @ Raiders***

[*Awful Llama*]

No worries, guys. Zac just told Lap in the post-game that he's got to be better. Step one, as they say, is admitting you have a problem.

[*Nately120*]

(11-17-2019, 09:41 PM)Pat5775 Wrote: I still feel like Marvin would be 0-10 with this team

So the fact that we replaced an average HC with a guy who is in way over his head is irrelevant?  Ida know. 

[*Nately120*]

(11-17-2019, 09:43 PM)Rubekahn29 Wrote: Do we see Dolegala this year?

We seem to have burned the QB bridge yet again with Dalton and I assume we kept 3 QBs on the roster for a reason...I think Finley gets injure-benched eventually.  Do they go back to Dalton?  Ehh.

[The Caped Crusader]

(11-17-2019, 09:45 PM)Nately120 Wrote: We seem to have burned the QB bridge yet again with Dalton and I assume we kept 3 QBs on the roster for a reason...I think Finley gets injure-benched eventually.  Do they go back to Dalton?  Ehh.

I'm surprised Finley kept going. Not sure he can sustain future punishment. Perhaps one more game. Another putrid performance and put Dolegalahabaha in

[*rfaulk34*]

(11-17-2019, 09:42 PM)Nately120 Wrote: So 36 pass attempts and you get 115 yards out of it?  Eep.  I didn't expect much but lordy that's bad. 

Driskel was never that bad. His worst was 12/24 50% 95 4.0ypa 0/0 60.2 rating and that was in the Pitt finale. 

His numbers against Oakland last year were similar. 14/33 42.4% 130 3.9ypa 1/1 51.3 rating. 

[Shake n Blake]

(11-17-2019, 09:43 PM)Awful Llama Wrote: No worries, guys.  Zac just told Lap in the post-game that he's got to be better.  Step one, as they say, is admitting you have a problem.

Sheesh. Did he also say "we did some good things, but not enough good things consistently?". Did he giggle at all? 

:giggle:

[*TheLeonardLeap*]

(11-17-2019, 09:39 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: This is absolutely pathetic. 13/31 41.9% 115 3.7ypa 0/1 5 sacks 39.0 rating. Against a bad pass D. 

Sure but TOM BRADY didn't have a great first start.

[hoosierbengal]

(11-17-2019, 09:37 PM)The Caped Crusader Wrote: This. 

Really confused. Dalton had no business throwing 30 passes a game. Ryan certainly has no business throwing 31 a game. 

ZT has to take a lot of this blame

Yes! This isn’t a after the game thing for me. During the game I was thinking lean on Mixon here. Hell I didn’t even care if they lost but it seemed like it was there for the taking. I just struggle to see what Zac is trying to accomplish most of the time. I realize he has a bad line but when the basics are for the most part working for you stick with it until they make you do different. I agree with you Finley should not have had to throw 31 times in this particular game.

[*michaelsean*]

(11-17-2019, 09:43 PM)Awful Llama Wrote: No worries, guys. Zac just told Lap in the post-game that he's got to be better. Step one, as they say, is admitting you have a problem.

He came up with that all by himself? Are there at lot of 0-10 teams that don’t think they have to be better?

[*Nately120*]

(11-17-2019, 09:47 PM)The Caped Crusader Wrote: I'm surprised Finley kept going. Not sure he can sustain future punishment. Perhaps one more game. Another putrid performance and put Dolegalahabaha in

We're the new Browns!  We have a HC who shouldn't be a HC and we are getting ready to throw a third  QB/second rookie late round pick into a hopeless situation because....um.....football reasons!

And soon Sashi Mike Brown will trade our first overall pick for 30 7th rounders so we can rebuild!  Ok, I joke...Mike Brown isn't going to trade down because he'd have to do more work on draft day and the guy is old and tired.

[*rfaulk34*]

(11-17-2019, 09:48 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Sure but TOM BRADY didn't have a great first start.

Wanna see something funny? Here are Brady's stats in his 2nd start...

12/24 50% 86yds 3.6ypa 0/0 58.7 rating, in a loss to the Dolphins.

[Destro]

But Finely can step up in the pocket. That is all we need.

[BengalFanInNJ]

(11-17-2019, 09:27 PM)swilson3828 Wrote: Bengals high draft pick blunders....

KiJana Carter
Akil Smith
David Klingler
Andre Smith
Billy Price (so far)
David Pollock

Who am I missing here?

Tyler Eifert (Injury)
Cedric Ogbuehi
John Ross
Chris Perry
Keith Rivers
Dre Kirkpatrick

Not re-signing Johnathan Joseph, Kevin Zeitler

[Pat5775]

(11-17-2019, 09:44 PM)Nately120 Wrote: So the fact that we replaced an average HC with a guy who is in way over his head is irrelevant?  Ida know. 

Not irrelevant. I’m mostly acknowledging that Marvin left the cupboard completely bare after he left. Makes me wonder if he signed back on in January 2018 to screw Mike and Co over more when he finally left.

Granted, Zac has very minimal talent to work with. But his playcalling has all but proven he has no idea what he’s doing

[*michaelsean*]

(11-17-2019, 10:17 PM)Pat5775 Wrote: Not irrelevant. I’m mostly acknowledging that Marvin left the cupboard completely bare after he left. Makes me wonder if he signed back on in January 2018 to screw Mike and Co over more when he finally left.

Granted, Zac has very minimal talent to work with. But his playcalling has all but proven he has no idea what he’s doing

And I’m guessing down yet another receiver now.

[HarleyDog]

(11-17-2019, 09:45 PM)Nately120 Wrote: We seem to have burned the QB bridge yet again with Dalton and I assume we kept 3 QBs on the roster for a reason...I think Finley gets injure-benched eventually.  Do they go back to Dalton?  Ehh.

Yes. Dalton was warming up when it was possible Finley was hurt.

[TKUHL]

When you only allow three points in the second half that’s games you have to win

[*rfaulk34*]

(11-17-2019, 10:00 PM)Destro Wrote: But Finely can step up in the pocket. That is all we need.

Ridiculous comments like this are so tedius. 

Finley can avoid the rush better than Dalton but if he can't complete passes, he's as useless as tits on a boar. No one knew if he could do it until he got in games. So far it looks like he's ass, so that's one less question to answer. Only thing to do now is, if he shits the bed the next couple games, get Dolegala in for the final 4 games and see if he can do anything other than...shit the bed. 

Then you know beyond a shadow of the doubt that you need a new QB. After 2 games, i don't even know that Finley is a capable backup. 

Either that or just keep Dolegala for development next year, draft a QB and let Finley attempt to attain Driskel status for the rest of the year. I'd rather see Dolegala to find out if they just need a starting QB or if they need a starter and a backup. 

[*rfaulk34*]

(11-17-2019, 10:50 PM)TKUHL Wrote: When you only allow three points in the second half that’s games you have to win

Add in 170+ rushing yards (17 pts total for the game!). No damn way that game should have been lost. 

[Destro]

Can change the tires on your car as many times as you want, but when the engine is blown, it doesn't matter how well you think the new tires may ride. Bengals changed tires and nothing else and to expect any vastly different results is foolish. After OTA's, training camp, weekly practices and the first few games with Dalton losing, Finely was not put in. Maybe he didn't show enough to win the job, then they needed to do something, even if it is wrong, and boom went the dynamite. Heard it was the same for Haskins in Washington. He couldn't pick up the system, but losing towns want the back up in.

Now still have Dalton, who is likely gone and a back up that hasn't proven himself for trade or starting. Bengals have many holes now QB pick is not even a choice. They have to, even if it is reach.