05-17-2020, 06:19 PM
(05-16-2020, 09:05 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Ask Chase Coffman how easy it is to start learning how to block at the NFL level...And you ask Drew Sample how easy it is to start learning how to catch at the NFL level...
Who ends up the "3rd WR" at the end of the season ?
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05-17-2020, 06:19 PM
(05-16-2020, 09:05 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Ask Chase Coffman how easy it is to start learning how to block at the NFL level...And you ask Drew Sample how easy it is to start learning how to catch at the NFL level...
05-17-2020, 06:29 PM
05-17-2020, 07:05 PM
(05-17-2020, 05:58 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: There's plenty of tight ends in today's age that are, by older standards, atrocious blockers. There quite a few that are rarely if ever asked to really take on that role. Huh? Gronk was a great blocker. So is George Kittle, who is arguably the best TE in the league right now.
05-17-2020, 07:11 PM
(05-17-2020, 06:19 PM)bfine32 Wrote: And you ask Drew Sample how easy it is to start learning how to catch at the NFL level... Hell of a lot easier than learning to block. Uzomah never really caught passes in college (29 rec in 4 years) and he’s become pretty decent at it in the NFL.
05-17-2020, 07:17 PM
(05-17-2020, 05:58 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: There's plenty of tight ends in today's age that are, by older standards, atrocious blockers. There quite a few that are rarely if ever asked to really take on that role. Gronk was one of the best blocking TEs in the game. You don't have any credibility here.
05-17-2020, 08:30 PM
(05-17-2020, 07:11 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Hell of a lot easier than learning to block. Uzomah never really caught passes in college (29 rec in 4 years) and he’s become pretty decent at it in the NFL. Must be why the top TEs in the league are known for their blocking. Could have been why I said he becomes the move TE instead on the inline. CJ Uzomah.....for real?
05-17-2020, 08:58 PM
I think Ross gets every chance they can give him to earn the spot. Maybe if Higgins is just lights out in camp, he can make the decision a hard one.
One of the best things for Higgins is that he's not immediately needed and can come along slowly if need be.
05-17-2020, 09:12 PM
05-18-2020, 12:12 AM
I really hadn't considered Drew Sample as a third receiver candidate but it is the offseason I guess.
05-18-2020, 01:57 AM
(05-17-2020, 08:30 PM)bfine32 Wrote: Must be why the top TEs in the league are known for their blocking. Could have been why I said he becomes the move TE instead on the inline. So you wouldn’t be happy with a 43 rec, 439 yds, 3 TD season out of Sample in a year or two? He probably should have been picked closer to where Uzomah was anyway. So I don’t really see why my comparison was so surprising to you.
05-18-2020, 08:26 AM
I will bet the house it won't be John Ross!
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05-18-2020, 08:42 AM
(05-18-2020, 08:26 AM)corpjet Wrote: I will bet the house it won't be John Ross! I'm going to say that's up to one person, John Ross. All the talking heads pretty much agree it takes 3 years for most WR's to develop in the NFL, so Tee Higgins may not be the starter just yet. Maybe he will pull an AJ Green and start day one. Ross has the ability and the tenure and the talent, if he can get his head out of his butt and concentrate on catching the ball AND stay healthy, he may be the starting #3. My guess, as much as it pains me to say, is he won't and he is going to pretty much ride the pine his last year here and will go down as a bust.
05-18-2020, 10:53 AM
(05-16-2020, 12:56 PM)impactplaya Wrote: Drafting of Tee Higgins makes the WR room alot more This is tough because it can come down to what the Bengals envision for next year. For example, if the Bengals don't plan to keep Ross, the 3rd WR spot could go to Higgins or Tate even if Ross outproduces them both. Going purely off production though, we saw Ross put up 506/3 in just 8 games last year. If he's healthy, he should outproduce Tate for sure. Ross has more explosion than Tate and even Higgins. Higgins and Tate have size over Ross. I'd like it to be Ross because he brings a different element to the group that no other WR does, but my gut tells me Higgins because he was drafted 33rd overall and the Bengals will want to groom him to take over for AJ in a year (or more if AJ is extended).
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05-18-2020, 11:12 AM
(05-18-2020, 10:53 AM)ochocincos Wrote: This is tough because it can come down to what the Bengals envision for next year. Ross still is producing a TD every 5 times he touches the ball, and as much as many folks on here can't stand the guy (Maybe Burrow reduces the butt hurt of not taking Mahommes?) he changes the way opposing defenses defend the Bengals more than any WR on the team. If Green is healthy, he and Boyd (and Tate, and the TEs) will love having Ross draw the safeties back. I am beyond excited to see what Burrow can do with this stable of weapons. The very few times the Bengals had a healthy Eifert and Green, their offense was really strong. A healthy Boyd, Ross, and Green to line up with Sample or Uzo and Mixon or Gio also as potential receiving threats? The days of limping along to try and score 20 points will be gone.
05-18-2020, 11:23 AM
05-18-2020, 11:40 AM
(05-18-2020, 11:12 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: Ross still is producing a TD every 5 times he touches the ball, and as much as many folks on here can't stand the guy (Maybe Burrow reduces the butt hurt of not taking Mahommes?) he changes the way opposing defenses defend the Bengals more than any WR on the team. If Green is healthy, he and Boyd (and Tate, and the TEs) will love having Ross draw the safeties back. I believe this is Ross's make or break season (duh). Can JB revive JR's career ? That's the question ? And a lot of who ends up at WR3 depends on that.
05-18-2020, 11:50 AM
(05-18-2020, 11:40 AM)bengalfan74 Wrote: I believe this is Ross's make or break season (duh). Can JB revive JR's career ? That's the question ? And a lot of who ends up at WR3 depends on that. There are very few scenarios where Ross is a Bengals in 2021. If he produces, they will not likely be able to afford him, should they even want to retain him. If he is in a somewhat middling ground, he will probably believe that he could get more money elsewhere...and he would be right. You can't pay Ross even Tyler Boyd money if you have Green extended and Boyd getting $10 million per year. If he doesn't produce at all, the Bengals might be able to sign him to a prove-it deal, but I would still imagine he would try his luck somewhere else.
05-18-2020, 12:31 PM
(05-18-2020, 11:50 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: There are very few scenarios where Ross is a Bengals in 2021. Oh I agree, the chances of Ross being a Bengal next season are slim at best. The only way I see him staying on the team is 1. AJ goes out injured again and that pretty much wraps up his career as a Bengal. 2. Ross and Burrow just light up the scoreboard. This isn't about hate, Ross can't help he was over drafted. I just have doubts he's ever going to be a reliable #1 or #2 or #3 ? Reliable staying healthy and on the field, reliable running the correct routes, showing up in crunch time, catching the damn ball. I'd love, LOVE it if Ross played in 15 and 1/2 games, went for 1,150 receiving with 10 TD's, 185 rushing with a TD this season ! I'm just skeptical that's gonna happen
05-18-2020, 12:41 PM
(05-18-2020, 12:31 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: Oh I agree, the chances of Ross being a Bengal next season are slim at best. The only way I see him staying on the team is 1. AJ goes out injured again and that pretty much wraps up his career as a Bengal. 2. Ross and Burrow just light up the scoreboard. Yeah, there is always that thing about guys that stumble out of the gate, but seem to find their footing in their contract year. The team is better with him on the field. Let's hope he stays out there.
05-18-2020, 01:44 PM
Anyone remember when people here were ready to anoint Willis as the next AJ Green last year.
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