(05-28-2021, 10:02 PM)BengalsRocker Wrote: Never too late.
There definitely are more educational tools out now than when I started.
YouTube is a blessing to learn from and with the amount of players plus accessibility to local teachers should get you moving along.
I never had a teacher worth a damn in my vicinity when I started. It took meeting other players and learning bits and pieces from them to get me going.
I guess that's why I'm more of a humble player. My philosophy has always been that you can learn from players at all levels. Their approach might open your eyes to something you never thought of. That, and no matter how good you are that you're always a student.
I've been picking about a month now. Almost every time I pick it up I have an "oh yeah" moment as I remember something else. I had two uncles that were good players. Small town gig stuff mostly country, southern rock, blues kinda bands. I learned everything I used to know from them.
Neither ever had any formal music lessons. And neither have I. And yes youtube has helped me a lot relearning chords and stuff. I think I'm going yo get a metronome to try and get some kinda rhythm going.
I'm thinking maybe later on this summer graduating to a lower level electric. I'm not going to sink any big money in it just yet but I don't want a $199 special set up either.
I'm really enjoying it except for my finger tips being sore as hell, lol. Been practicing Sweet home Alabama to much. lol
(05-28-2021, 09:48 PM)BengalsRocker Wrote: Is that the one from 1990? That is my absolute favorite one.
Love this version of Freddie King's "The Stumble".
That's the one! I haven't watched it in a while, but that concert is so great. It both inspires me and makes me never want to pick up my guitar again.
(05-28-2021, 09:52 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: I just bought an acoustic guitar, gonna try and start playing again. It's been like 35-40 years, no kidding.
That's awesome! As Rocker mentioned, what a great time to learn the instrument. So many lessons on YouTube. Techniques, songs, theory. A little bit of everything. And great to see so many different views. I was completely self-taught and while I was pretty decent and spent time in bands, I ended up going back a few years ago and diving into re-learning things and trying to get to the next level. The online resources have been great, and there are a lot of guys I watch regularly just for inspiration, new ideas or things I can use to improve. Get past the painful finger stage and I'm sure you'll have a great time!
(05-29-2021, 12:01 AM)BigPapaKain Wrote: I can play guitar, bass guitar, cello, violin, trumpet, trombone, clarinet, alto saxophone, drums, flute, viola, and French horn.
Master of none, but I can fill in where needed.
That's pretty awesome though.
For you to be able to play a variety wind, string, and percussion instruments is something.
I'm sure if you focused on one you'd excel.
Just curious that you didn't mention piano/keyboard?
Most musicians if they dabble from their main instrument usually gravitate to the piano.
I play piano/keys a bit but never got past beginner phase.
My right predominant hand is pretty good but my left hand can only chord.
I'm amazed as a musician, when I watch a pianist doing two completely different melody lines with separate timings.
Then you take that same pianist and add them singing a completely different melody as well.
It just blows my mind to multi-task at that level.
(05-28-2021, 10:46 PM)MileHighGrowler Wrote: That's awesome! As Rocker mentioned, what a great time to learn the instrument. So many lessons on YouTube. Techniques, songs, theory. A little bit of everything. And great to see so many different views. I was completely self-taught and while I was pretty decent and spent time in bands, I ended up going back a few years ago and diving into re-learning things and trying to get to the next level. The online resources have been great, and there are a lot of guys I watch regularly just for inspiration, new ideas or things I can use to improve. Get past the painful finger stage and I'm sure you'll have a great time!
^^^
Youtube is amazing. There is just so much quality stuff that available.
I'm pretty similar to you, although I took lessons for about 3 or 4 months. Just enough time for my teacher to show me my open chrords, and tab out Witchy Woman, Lying Eyes, Smoke on the Water, Hotel California, and of course Stairway. After that I was on my own.
I remember saving up to buy tab books or God forbid I had enough money to buy one of those instructional videos (they were like 40 bucks!). I honestly cannot imagine having all of this stuff available today back then when I was like 14 and trying to learn Chili Pepper and Rage Against the Machine songs by ear.
Youtube actually really helped me get back into playing. I still noodled around but I hadn't progessed in a long, long time. Fwiw, I probably spend more time watching youtube now than actually tv. All sorts of different guitar stuff.
Not sure anyone really cares but here's some of my favorite channels: Robert Baker, Paul Davids, Rhett Skull, Pete Thorn, Matthew Scott, Norm's, Trogly's, Casino Guitars, etc.
(05-28-2021, 10:46 PM)MileHighGrowler Wrote: I was completely self-taught and while I was pretty decent and spent time in bands, I ended up going back a few years ago and diving into re-learning things and trying to get to the next level. The online resources have been great, and there are a lot of guys I watch regularly just for inspiration, new ideas or things I can use to improve.
I'm pretty much self taught. Early lessons did not help me very much. That Mel Bay approach to guitar was not appealing as a young player.
I had a teacher once give me some basic scale charts and later on I worked on some of those.
At that point I had been playing for a couple of years picking up chords and such from other guitar players.
After playing in bands for years, I finally started taking lessons from a legit highly talented player.
He asked me to show him how much I knew how to play.
Amazingly enough there was quite a lot I had already known, but didn't know what it was called or how it related in music theory.
I learned some things but I got lazy, didn't want to pay for lessons anymore, and eventually quit.
Playing in bands and being able to do most typical things with little effort makes it too easy to be complacent.
It's when I watch someone fingerpick, use a slide(I suck at it), or other techniques that I lack at that make me want to get better.
Learning different scales and approaches to phrasing is appealing as well.
I recently was playing in a band with an excellent sax player and his approach to solos was much different than mine.
The realization from watching him play and how the audience reacted was his hold out notes and anticipation spacing.
It's not all about blazing solos and technical gymnastics.
With Youtube you see a ton of great technical guitarists that play like robots and have little to no feel in their leads.
Youtube is amazing. There is just so much quality stuff that available.
I'm pretty similar to you, although I took lessons for about 3 or 4 months. Just enough time for my teacher to show me my open chrords, and tab out Witchy Woman, Lying Eyes, Smoke on the Water, Hotel California, and of course Stairway. After that I was on my own.
I remember saving up to buy tab books or God forbid I had enough money to buy one of those instructional videos (they were like 40 bucks!). I honestly cannot imagine having all of this stuff available today back then when I was like 14 and trying to learn Chili Pepper and Rage Against the Machine songs by ear.
Youtube actually really helped me get back into playing. I still noodled around but I hadn't progessed in a long, long time. Fwiw, I probably spend more time watching youtube now than actually tv. All sorts of different guitar stuff.
Not sure anyone really cares but here's some of my favorite channels: Robert Baker, Paul Davids, Rhett Skull, Pete Thorn, Matthew Scott, Norm's, Trogly's, Casino Guitars, etc.
Pete Thorn is amazing. That guy should be a star. Love that guy's playing.
He could make any piece of equipment sound good.
Norm's is great just to drool over their guitars not to mention the level of talented players that show them off.
Phil X used to crack me up when he'd show off guitars for Fretted Americana. He's so spastic.
I like on Youtube:
Music Is Win-What's not to like about this guy. He can be cocky but also humble too.
Ben Eller(Uncle Ben)-great deadpan comedy mixed with real lessons.
Robert Baker-Fun to watch
Guitarlessons365-Has one of the biggest libraries of cover song lessons
Rick Beato(works with Rhett Shull BTW)-More about song construction, music industry insight, and theories.
Paul Gilbert-Just an all around nice guy and love to listen to him talk about music.
Late Night Lessons-Breaks down what makes players styles shine
(05-29-2021, 11:08 AM)BengalsRocker Wrote: Norm's is great just to drool over their guitars not to mention the level of talented players that show them off.
What do you think of Michael Lemmo? In case you don't watch a ton of their vids, here's their main guy now. He replaced Mark Agnesi.
He is a very unqiue player. At first I wasn't sure if I liked him or not but he's really grown on me.
(05-29-2021, 11:29 AM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: What do you think of Michael Lemmo? In case you don't watch a ton of their vids, here's their main guy now. He replaced Mark Agnesi.
He is a very unqiue player. At first I wasn't sure if I liked him or not but he's really grown on me.
It depends on what he's playing on or through from watching him.
Some of his electric tones aren't my thing.
His phrasing is nice though regardless. Great player.
(05-29-2021, 11:08 AM)BengalsRocker Wrote: Phil X used to crack me up when he'd show off guitars for Fretted Americana. He's so spastic.
LOVE Phil X
Fwiw, there's a really good series of videos they did on youtube with a bunch of content creators at an event called GuitCon. It was hosted by Warwick in Germany.
Phil X and Pete Thorn were pretty much the "pros" of the group. MusicisWin, Robert Baker, Mary Spender, ThatPedalShow Phillip McNight and ton of others were there.
It's pretty interesting to see them all interact. If you wanna find some of it it's spread across all of their individual channels. Just search "guitcon" and you'll see them. There's a ton of different vids with different people, there's a jam session, all sorts of stuff.
PS Probably a good chance you've seen this but just in case you or anyone else hasn't I thought I'd bring it up.
(05-29-2021, 11:46 AM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: LOVE Phil X
Fwiw, there's a really good series of videos they did on youtube with a bunch of content creators at an event called GuitCon. It was hosted by Warwick in Germany.
Phil X and Pete Thorn were pretty much the "pros" of the group. MusicisWin, Robert Baker, Mary Spender, ThatPedalShow Phillip McNight and ton of others were there.
It's pretty interesting to see them all interact. If you wanna find some of it it's spread across all of their individual channels. Just search "guitcon" and you'll see them. There's a ton of different vids with different people, there's a jam session, all sorts of stuff.
PS Probably a good chance you've seen this but just in case you or anyone else hasn't I thought I'd bring it up.
(05-29-2021, 12:24 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: Can't believe I forgot about Greg Koch. Super entertaining and just ridiculously good. Like, makes you want to stop playing good.
Good stuff.
Tim Pierce is another interesting guy to watch Youtube vids on.
The guy played on some of the most iconic pop songs as a studio session guitarist.
For you to be able to play a variety wind, string, and percussion instruments is something.
I'm sure if you focused on one you'd excel.
Just curious that you didn't mention piano/keyboard?
Most musicians if they dabble from their main instrument usually gravitate to the piano.
I play piano/keys a bit but never got past beginner phase.
My right predominant hand is pretty good but my left hand can only chord.
I'm amazed as a musician, when I watch a pianist doing two completely different melody lines with separate timings.
Then you take that same pianist and add them singing a completely different melody as well.
It just blows my mind to multi-task at that level.
I've tried my hand at piano but something about it - maybe fat fingers, maybe too much information already in my head, I'm not sure - I just couldn't get my head wrapped around it.
Admittedly, I took to most of the instruments I can play relatively easily and piano was hard and I had an issue with giving up really easily when I was younger, so I'm sure that had something to do with it. I'd love to learn it, but since I don't have access to one nor the room to keep one, it's a pipedream at this point. And no, I won't do keyboard - those things are vile insults to pianos lol
(05-28-2021, 09:05 PM)grampahol Wrote: I started out with some flea market special that would pretty much ruin most fingertips, but mine turned into nails for a while. Then I got my hands on some mid level acoustic box and started learning cords and made a few songs I liked. Eventually I bought a decent Fender.. Then my table saw decided to put an end to me playing guitar. I can still play it some, but no feeling in my index finger so I can't really change cords like I used to..
I might try my hand at making a guitar someday. Quite a few guys I talk with on woodworking forums make musical instruments. Been giving serious thought to a steam box for steam bending wood..
Back in '88 i worked with a guy who accidentally cut the tip of his left index finger off (he had done this before working with me). He was so upset that he trashed all his guitars, since he couldn't play them any more. After calming down he went out and bought a left handed guitar and learned to play that way.
He was an Yngwie Malmsteen nut.
"The measure of a man's intelligence can be seen in the length of his argument."
(05-28-2021, 10:02 PM)BengalsRocker Wrote: Never too late.
There definitely are more educational tools out now than when I started.
YouTube is a blessing to learn from and with the amount of players plus accessibility to local teachers should get you moving along.
I never had a teacher worth a damn in my vicinity when I started. It took meeting other players and learning bits and pieces from them to get me going.
I guess that's why I'm more of a humble player. My philosophy has always been that you can learn from players at all levels. Their approach might open your eyes to something you never thought of. That, and no matter how good you are that you're always a student.
I don't know if i ever shared this story but i bought my first guitar in '84 but didn't get anywhere near serious about learning until '94 when i happened to be in a CVS in Covington and saw an issue of Guitar World magazine. Started getting those every month and i would playe stuff from that every night from 11pm to 3am, since that was right around the time my newborn sons started sleeping through the night. I did that for two straight years.
I still have 2 or 3 big boxes of those old magazines....i think. I may have thrown at least some of them out last year while doing some 'spring cleaning'.
I've taken exactly 1 guitar lesson at Maschinot music--where i bought my first guitar--sometime around '90 or so and never went back.
"The measure of a man's intelligence can be seen in the length of his argument."
(05-29-2021, 10:21 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Back in '88 i worked with a guy who accidentally cut the tip of his left index finger off (he had done this before working with me). He was so upset that he trashed all his guitars, since he couldn't play them any more. After calming down he went out and bought a left handed guitar and learned to play that way.
He was an Yngwie Malmsteen nut.
I don't have the ability to change sides of how my brain controls my hands or at least not yet. I'm left handed for only 2 things I'm aware of, eating and writing. I've tried more times than I can count to use my right hand for both and it's a lost cause. I'd starve to death if I had to use my right hand to eat and forget writing..I can't even scribble decent.. Never had a left hand guitar though.. I dunno.. I still have my mahogany Fender. Maybe I'll trade it in. Come to think about it I've never been able to use a pick with my right..might be able to with my left..hmmm..
Oh well..I do have other fish to fry besides learning to play guitar left handed..
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