Posts: 27,872
Threads: 349
Reputation:
238258
Joined: Aug 2016
25 million and change. That’s how much we’re paying Geno and Dunlap. If your highest paid players give you virtually nothing you’re not going to win many games. Today was a clear cut case of our lack of pass rush costing us a game. The ease in which Rivers sat back and carved us up was embarrassing.
I love both those guys. Two of my favorite Bengals of all time, but I sincerely hope we move on from all these aging players (AJ too) next season. Can’t tie that much money up in over-the-hill players that aren’t producing anymore.
I fear Mike Brown being loyal to a fault will cost us several years of Burrow’s rookie contract.
1
Posts: 25,768
Threads: 647
Reputation:
242186
Joined: May 2015
Location: Jackson, OH
$43M if you include AJ Green's salary. (As long as we're talking about no return on investment)
Volson is meh, but I like him, and he has far exceeded my expectations
-Frank Booth 1/9/23
Posts: 27,872
Threads: 349
Reputation:
238258
Joined: Aug 2016
(10-18-2020, 07:59 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: $43M if you include AJ Green's salary. (As long as we're talking about no return on investment)
Yep. Didn’t want to knock him today after a decent game, but when you add in him and Waynes all our big money guys have given us close to nothing so far. Brutal.
Posts: 3,205
Threads: 0
Reputation:
5188
Joined: Sep 2017
Don’t forget Gio is getting 12 or 13 million, and today was the most he’s played all year.
1
Posts: 25,768
Threads: 647
Reputation:
242186
Joined: May 2015
Location: Jackson, OH
(10-18-2020, 08:02 PM)Timanky12 Wrote: Don’t forget Gio is getting 12 or 13 million, and today was the most he’s played all year.
Ha! Gio is getting $3.1M this year. That might seem a bit high, but he did produce a score today.
Volson is meh, but I like him, and he has far exceeded my expectations
-Frank Booth 1/9/23
1
Posts: 20,257
Threads: 161
Reputation:
55572
Joined: May 2015
Location: Cincinnati
(10-18-2020, 08:02 PM)Timanky12 Wrote: Don’t forget Gio is getting 12 or 13 million, and today was the most he’s played all year.
They are talking yearly
“History teaches that grave threats to liberty often come in times of urgency, when constitutional rights seem too extravagant to endure.”-Thurgood Marshall
Posts: 20,257
Threads: 161
Reputation:
55572
Joined: May 2015
Location: Cincinnati
(10-18-2020, 07:57 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: 25 million and change. That’s how much we’re paying Geno and Dunlap. If your highest paid players give you virtually nothing you’re not going to win many games. Today was a clear cut case of our lack of pass rush costing us a game. The ease in which Rivers sat back and carved us up was embarrassing.
I love both those guys. Two of my favorite Bengals of all time, but I sincerely hope we move on from all these aging players (AJ too) next season. Can’t tie that much money up in over-the-hill players that aren’t producing anymore.
I fear Mike Brown being loyal to a fault will cost us several years of Burrow’s rookie contract.
If anyone would take either in a trade for a fifth I’d do it. Just to get something, but I doubt they’d warrant even that.
“History teaches that grave threats to liberty often come in times of urgency, when constitutional rights seem too extravagant to endure.”-Thurgood Marshall
Posts: 3,205
Threads: 0
Reputation:
5188
Joined: Sep 2017
Your right, looked it up. Like you sad not worth it, though.
1
Posts: 7,768
Threads: 216
Reputation:
40801
Joined: May 2015
Location: Cave
Geno it's probably playing hurt but Dunlap is playing like he doesn't care. Some of the recently signed defense linemen played well considering they've only been with the team with short while.
Posts: 15,116
Threads: 221
Reputation:
147378
Joined: May 2015
(10-18-2020, 08:04 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: Ha! Gio is getting $3.1M this year. That might seem a bit high, but he did produce a score today.
$4.8 million cap hit, which places him 12th among all RB's.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/cap-hit/running-back/
The training, nutrition, medicine, fitness, playbooks and rules evolve. The athlete does not.
Posts: 4,542
Threads: 204
Reputation:
43688
Joined: May 2015
(10-18-2020, 08:16 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: $4.8 million cap hit, which places him 12th among all RB's.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/cap-hit/running-back/
Imagine paying a guy more than 20 starting backs in the league to use him the way we do.
Gio Bernard had 4 carries on the season going into todays game. 4.
Un-freakin-believable.
Posts: 8,764
Threads: 219
Reputation:
29729
Joined: May 2015
Location: Fredericksburg Virginia
1.) Neither guy got playing time and when they did lou only rushed 3 guys.
2.) The Colts came into the game giving up only 5 sacks on the year. It's not like we.were playing our offensive line.
Posts: 3,205
Threads: 0
Reputation:
5188
Joined: Sep 2017
As usual MB pays players who stay with the team, not because they are worth their weight in gold. If you stay with us, we will pay you, regardless of your stats.
Posts: 8,648
Threads: 301
Reputation:
73011
Joined: Jan 2016
Location: Kettering, Ohio
What are we paying Mixon to get three yards a carry?
Posts: 15,116
Threads: 221
Reputation:
147378
Joined: May 2015
(10-18-2020, 08:22 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: Imagine paying a guy more than 20 starting backs in the league to use him the way we do.
Gio Bernard had 4 carries on the season going into todays game. 4.
Un-freakin-believable.
Yep. Blows me away. Inept money management. Paying to be overly loyal.
The training, nutrition, medicine, fitness, playbooks and rules evolve. The athlete does not.
Posts: 1,039
Threads: 22
Reputation:
4358
Joined: Jul 2015
We have the players at other positions now where I feel like the team can mainly focus on the trenches over the next couple of years. I’m with you, the lack of pass rush was apparent today. I also don’t think I have seen so many missed assigments or blown coverages in one game in my life. I mean 235 passing yards in one quarter???? That is just damn hard to do.
Posts: 25,768
Threads: 647
Reputation:
242186
Joined: May 2015
Location: Jackson, OH
(10-18-2020, 08:31 PM)Shake n Blake Wrote: Yep. Blows me away. Inept money management. Paying to be overly loyal.
I won't criticize them over Gio's contract. When it appeared that Mixon was having foot issues, he was right there. None of the other backs that we've had around in the past few years have been able to come close to unseating him as the RB2 and Change of Pace, 3rd down blocking back.
Although, when the camera focused on him after his TD, with that pron stache, he kinda put me in mind of Lamont Sanford. 
Volson is meh, but I like him, and he has far exceeded my expectations
-Frank Booth 1/9/23
Posts: 5,559
Threads: 82
Reputation:
25610
Joined: May 2015
Location: Florida
(10-18-2020, 07:57 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: 25 million and change. That’s how much we’re paying Geno and Dunlap. If your highest paid players give you virtually nothing you’re not going to win many games. Today was a clear cut case of our lack of pass rush costing us a game. The ease in which Rivers sat back and carved us up was embarrassing.
I love both those guys. Two of my favorite Bengals of all time, but I sincerely hope we move on from all these aging players (AJ too) next season. Can’t tie that much money up in over-the-hill players that aren’t producing anymore.
I fear Mike Brown being loyal to a fault will cost us several years of Burrow’s rookie contract.
This is what happens when several of the front office's draft picks turn bust over several years. This just saps the depth out of the team and means there's no one is there to replacing aging stars.
The sent Whit and Zietler packing and see still see the effects of those mistakes on the OL.
Posts: 7,821
Threads: 3
Reputation:
13150
Joined: Sep 2016
Location: BurningArizona
Many fans here still think like Marvin. They want to keep aging, non-productive players.
Posts: 4,542
Threads: 204
Reputation:
43688
Joined: May 2015
(10-18-2020, 08:43 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I won't criticize them over Gio's contract. When it appeared that Mixon was having foot issues, he was right there. None of the other backs that we've had around in the past few years have been able to come close to unseating him as the RB2 and Change of Pace, 3rd down blocking back.
I don't know how you set his market price at that amount, even if you value him greatly.
I can get on board with definitely wanting to keep him. (I love Gio, and I'm glad he's here.) Like I said though, I just don't get how they determined that was his worth. It's like they didn't bother looking at any other RB contracts to set their offer.
His agent had to have been over the moon when it came through. It's an unbelievable amount for a RB that hasn't hit 500 yards rushing since 2015.
|
![[Image: 4CV0TeR.png]](https://i.imgur.com/4CV0TeR.png)
![[Image: maXCb2f.jpg]](https://i.imgur.com/maXCb2f.jpg)
