PFF Grades against Dallas

[THE PISTONS]

#Bengals defensive grades on Sunday via @PFF (min 15 snaps).

Top 3

Darius Phillips (90.4)
Mike Daniels (78.6)
Josh Bynes (76.2)

Bottom 3

Mackensie Alexander (39.2)
LeShaun Sims (52.3)
Margus Hunt (64.2)

— Paul Dehner Jr. (@pauldehnerjr) December 14, 2020

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[THE PISTONS]

#Bengals offensive grades from @PFF on Sunday (min 15 snaps).

Top 3:

A.J. Green (75.2)
Semaje Perine (69.7)
Brandon Allen (64.0)

Bottom 3:

Giovani Bernard (44.4)
Xavier Su'a-Filo (50.3)
Trayveon Williams (51.2)

— Paul Dehner Jr. (@pauldehnerjr) December 14, 2020

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[THE PISTONS]

Lol PFF gave Darius Phillips a 90 overall grade and the Bengals didn't play him until the second half.
Targets twice, 0 catches, 2 PBUs

— Goodberry (@JoeGoodberry) December 14, 2020

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[Gdale_Bengal]

So Phillips was dynamite?

[Wes Mantooth]

I wasn't watching that close but I find it extremely hard to believe that Margus Hunt had one of the worst performances on the team. That guy made quite a few plays that I saw.

[kevin]

My highest game grade goes to Andy Dalton's wife. Often she was the only one in the game worth watching. Glad the cameras kept finding her. TV must have had same opinion.

[RunKijanaRun]

PFF grades are utter nonsense.

[*ochocincos*]

(12-14-2020, 03:57 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: I wasn't watching that close but I find it extremely hard to believe that Margus Hunt had one of the worst performances on the team.  That guy made quite a few plays that I saw.

A 64 grade is solid.
It just means most players were in the 65-74 range.

[*ochocincos*]

(12-14-2020, 03:58 PM)RunKijanaRun Wrote: PFF grades are utter nonsense.

PFF watches and scrutinizes performance far more than fans watching live on TV/in-person.

[THE PISTONS]

(12-14-2020, 04:32 PM)ochocincos Wrote: PFF watches and scrutinizes performance far more than fans watching live on TV/in-person.

Yep. Fans see 1 or 2 splash plays and rate a guy based on that play. PFF sees EVERY play. Players have good plays and bad plays. Some fans don't get that.

[*ochocincos*]

(12-14-2020, 04:40 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Yep. Fans see 1 or 2 splash plays and rate a guy based on that play. PFF sees EVERY play. Players have good plays and bad plays. Some fans don't get that.

Yep.
They not only look at every play, but they look at it with the All-22 film and will replay film multiple times.
It's tough to know exactly what the responsibilities for a player were or were not on a given play, so an assessment can be inaccurate, but it's still better than a fan making a judgement from what they see live on TV.

[XenoMorph]

(12-14-2020, 03:57 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: I wasn't watching that close but I find it extremely hard to believe that Margus Hunt had one of the worst performances on the team.  That guy made quite a few plays that I saw.

i can believe it though nothing against hunt but wasnt he just recently brought back onto the team?  i dont think he had been playing this year

[Nicomo Cosca]

That Bynes grade seems high. Alexander’s is about right. He looked bad to me.

What was Hart’s?

[*SHRacerX*]

(12-14-2020, 03:53 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote:

#Bengals defensive grades on Sunday via @PFF (min 15 snaps).

Top 3

Darius Phillips (90.4)
Mike Daniels (78.6)
Josh Bynes (76.2)

Bottom 3

Mackensie Alexander (39.2)
LeShaun Sims (52.3)
Margus Hunt (64.2)

— Paul Dehner Jr. (@pauldehnerjr) December 14, 2020

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Great day for Phillips....Was surprised at Alexander's score.  I saw him miss a tackle but he is usually very solid in coverage grade.  

I really wish they would sit Sims and give Winston Rose some snaps.  He has a lot of upside and I would like to see how he fared.  

[*SHRacerX*]

(12-14-2020, 03:57 PM)Wes Mantooth Wrote: I wasn't watching that close but I find it extremely hard to believe that Margus Hunt had one of the worst performances on the team.  That guy made quite a few plays that I saw.

I was thinking the same thing and thought Bynes struggled.  Weird. 

[fredtoast]

(12-14-2020, 04:32 PM)ochocincos Wrote: PFF watches and scrutinizes performance far more than fans watching live on TV/in-person.

Then they plug subjective grades into a flawed formula.

PFF keeps track of a lot of good objective stats, but I have found that their individual player ratings are kind of a joke.

[impactplaya]

I saw Germaine Pratt miss his typical 2 tackles yesterday

[fredtoast]

(12-14-2020, 05:35 PM)impactplaya Wrote: I saw Germaine Pratt miss his typical 2 tackles yesterday

WTF?


How many missed tackles does PFF claim he has?  2 per game would be 24.  ProFootballReference has him with just 5 for the season.

[Nicomo Cosca]

Pratt played yesterday? :ninja:

[*ochocincos*]

(12-14-2020, 05:31 PM)fredtoast Wrote: Then they plug subjective grades into a flawed formula.

PFF keeps track of a lot of good objective stats, but I have found that their individual player ratings are kind of a joke.

No more of a joke than what what fans rate individual players