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DI Milton Williams
Height: 6'3″ (50th percentile)
Weight: 284 (17th)
Arm: 31 1/2 (5th)
Vertical: 39 (99th)
Broad jump: 121 (97th)
Bench: 34 (91st)
40-yard: 4.62 (99th)
Short shuttle: 4.25 (97th)
3-cone: 6.87 (100th)
DI Geno Atkins (2010)
Height: 6'1 3/8"
Weight: 293
Arm: 32
Vertical: 33
Broad jump: 117
Bench: 34
40-yard: 4.85
Short shuttle: 4.43
3-cone: 7.33
Just for comparison
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(03-22-2021, 09:33 PM)Synric Wrote:
Some big names for Alabama not doing workouts tommorrow. Alabama Pro Day will be Televised
Edit: I think there is a second Alabama Pro Day on the 30th.
It will be interesting to see what Surtain does. He can lock up CB 1 ranking if he does well. Meanwhile Farley didn’t play football last year and will now miss his pro day with back surgery. He is my odds on favorite to be the guy everyone said was a first rounder who is not a first rounder.
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Spencer Brown may need some work technique wise but wow he can move.
Edit: Hearing the Steelers are very interested in Spwncer Brown.
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Rondale Moore only measures at 5'7 at his pro day.
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(03-23-2021, 10:28 AM)Au165 Wrote: Rondale Moore only measures at 5'7 at his pro day.
oops!
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Moore came back and ran a 4.29 and vertical 42.5 inches so physically he has been imposing. I think he probably still end up a 2nd round pick that will be more of a gadget player getting used out of the backfield, slot, returning, and generally anywhere a creative OC can find a use.
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(03-19-2021, 10:20 PM)bfine32 Wrote: A lot like this guy
DI Milton Williams
Height: 6'3″ (50th percentile)
Weight: 284 (17th)
Arm: 31 1/2 (5th)
Vertical: 39 (99th)
Broad jump: 121 (97th)
Bench: 34 (91st)
40-yard: 4.62 (99th)
Short shuttle: 4.25 (97th)
3-cone: 6.87 (100th)
Aaron Donald type numbers
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If you were to build players at DT and CB these would be the measurements.
DeVonta Smith confirmed he won't participate in drills today or March 30 could possibly do something by himself later...
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(03-23-2021, 10:09 AM)Synric Wrote: Spencer Brown may need some work technique wise but wow he can move.
Edit: Hearing the Steelers are very interested in Spwncer Brown.
Interesting. And generally the Steelers know how to draft OL.
Here's Drew Boylhart's assessment as well:
Spencer Brown OL/OT Northern Iowa
STRENGTHS
Spencer is a monster Right Tackle who has the athletic talent of a tight End playing Right Tackle. The truth is he is a specimen of a football player and at 314 lbs, 6’ 8”, there is no fat on this kid. He moves with the fluidness not found in most football players much less offensive lineman. Spencer handles pass blocking with the foot quickness needed lateral agility to mirror his opponent and shows the strength and quickness out of his stance to dominate when run blocking. Spencer is tall and most tall offensive lineman struggle with the lower acrobatics needed to keep those speed rushes from turning the corner, dipping their shoulder, and making sacks. Spencer does not have those problems because of his athleticism. He reminds me a lot of #Chiefs Eric Fisher and like Eric, if Spencer had a chance to work out at the combine he would shoot up the draft boards like a comet shoots across the sky because Spencer, is a potential 10-year, pro bowl offensive tackle.
CONCERNS
Spencer is tight in the hips so he will struggle to change direction but he has the lateral agility to minimize this issue. That means turning his hips is a struggle but as long as he keeps his opponent square to his shoulders he will be fine and he has the lateral agility to do that.
BOTTOM LINE 1.94
When Eric Fisher came out he struggled with his techniques because of his athletic talent. Spencer might be more athletic but what I saw in the Senior Bowl tapes was a significant increase and improvement in Spencer’s play from day one to game day in practices. In fact, his improvement in using leverage and getting his pad level down both in pass blocking and run blocking was excellent. He will struggle with the speed rushes until he learns better techniques but because he showed the improvement that he did in such a short span of time I believe this will not be an issue for very long. With the need for offensive lineman especially Right Tackles who can play without help from a Tight End or Running Back, Spencer could sneak into the back half of the first round. If there was a combine I know in my gut, that would happen but this year who knows? The size, athletic talent, and overall agility, and mental toughness to be the best he can be are too much for me to overlook and think otherwise. Truthfully, there is nothing to suggest that he can’t play on the Left side as well as the Right Side. But that’s just me, you never know what other’s opinions will be.
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(03-23-2021, 02:35 PM)3wt Wrote: Interesting. And generally the Steelers know how to draft OL.
Here's Drew Boylhart's assessment as well:
Spencer Brown OL/OT Northern Iowa
STRENGTHS
Spencer is a monster Right Tackle who has the athletic talent of a tight End playing Right Tackle. The truth is he is a specimen of a football player and at 314 lbs, 6’ 8”, there is no fat on this kid. He moves with the fluidness not found in most football players much less offensive lineman. Spencer handles pass blocking with the foot quickness needed lateral agility to mirror his opponent and shows the strength and quickness out of his stance to dominate when run blocking. Spencer is tall and most tall offensive lineman struggle with the lower acrobatics needed to keep those speed rushes from turning the corner, dipping their shoulder, and making sacks. Spencer does not have those problems because of his athleticism. He reminds me a lot of #Chiefs Eric Fisher and like Eric, if Spencer had a chance to work out at the combine he would shoot up the draft boards like a comet shoots across the sky because Spencer, is a potential 10-year, pro bowl offensive tackle.
CONCERNS
Spencer is tight in the hips so he will struggle to change direction but he has the lateral agility to minimize this issue. That means turning his hips is a struggle but as long as he keeps his opponent square to his shoulders he will be fine and he has the lateral agility to do that.
BOTTOM LINE 1.94
When Eric Fisher came out he struggled with his techniques because of his athletic talent. Spencer might be more athletic but what I saw in the Senior Bowl tapes was a significant increase and improvement in Spencer’s play from day one to game day in practices. In fact, his improvement in using leverage and getting his pad level down both in pass blocking and run blocking was excellent. He will struggle with the speed rushes until he learns better techniques but because he showed the improvement that he did in such a short span of time I believe this will not be an issue for very long. With the need for offensive lineman especially Right Tackles who can play without help from a Tight End or Running Back, Spencer could sneak into the back half of the first round. If there was a combine I know in my gut, that would happen but this year who knows? The size, athletic talent, and overall agility, and mental toughness to be the best he can be are too much for me to overlook and think otherwise. Truthfully, there is nothing to suggest that he can’t play on the Left side as well as the Right Side. But that’s just me, you never know what other’s opinions will be.
Might have to take him in round 2 if we really want him. Which I have no objection to.
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Bengals LB Coach at Coastal Carolina pulled Tarron Jackson through drills.
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(03-23-2021, 06:59 PM)Synric Wrote: Bengals LB Coach at Coastal Carolina pulled Tarron Jackson through drills.
Hope they check out their RB CJ Marable while they are there. Jackson is kind of underrated I think.
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CB Patrick Surtain II
Height: 6'2″ (95th percentile)
Weight: 208 (94th)
Arm: 32 1/2 (84th)
Hand: 10 (96th)
Vertical: 39 (84th)
Broad: 131 (92nd)
Bench: 18 reps (84th)
40-yard: 4.42 (75th)
I'd love this dude at #5 but being as we've signed about 15 CBs I don't see the value.
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(03-23-2021, 08:30 PM)bfine32 Wrote: CB Patrick Surtain II
Height: 6'2″ (95th percentile)
Weight: 208 (94th)
Arm: 32 1/2 (84th)
Hand: 10 (96th)
Vertical: 39 (84th)
Broad: 131 (92nd)
Bench: 18 reps (84th)
40-yard: 4.42 (75th)
I'd love this dude at #5 but being as we've signed about 15 CBs I don't see the value.
Only a 5 mill dead cap on Waynes after this year so it's possible !
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(03-23-2021, 12:41 PM)J24 Wrote: Aaron Donald type numbers
Looked nothing like Aaron playing football from I have watched though
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Umm Leatherwood sure has a lot going for him. I'd rather take him at 5 over Slater if we were that desperate.
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(03-24-2021, 03:17 AM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: Umm Leatherwood sure has a lot going for him. I'd rather take him at 5 over Slater if we were that desperate.
Leatherwood was a go to in the 2nd for a lot of mock drafts, then seemingly fell out of favor with the draftniks. Be interesting to see what those numbers do to his stock.
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Late round WR prospect Warren Jackson out of CSU
HT: 6060
WT: 219
Hand: 9 3/8
Arm: 33 1/2
Wing: 81 3/8
40-yd: 4.67/4.69 (NFL scout Stopwatch)
VJ: 33.5
BJ: 10-3
SS: 4.53
3C: 7.81
Pretty disappointing numbers. That 40 time realistically is in the 4.7 range.
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