Locker roomgate

[tigershrimp]

(10-22-2015, 02:53 AM)Devils Advocate Wrote: The question is: Are WNBA locker rooms as accessible as men's locker rooms are?

Yes, but like the tree that falls in the forest with no one there to hear.... 

[bengalhoel]

(10-22-2015, 02:53 AM)Devils Advocate Wrote: The question is: Are WNBA locker rooms as accessible as men's locker rooms are?

You probably would see more penis than you did in the Bengals clip!!! 

[Bengal Dude]

(10-22-2015, 02:53 AM)Devils Advocate Wrote: The question is: Are WNBA locker rooms as accessible as men's locker rooms are?

They get a 10 minute "cool down" moment before the media is allowed in.

[bengalhoel]

Eric Winston using the George Costanza "shrinkage" defense just in case!

[Junglejuice]

Where is Brad to weigh in on this??


Anyways... Unleash the dongs fellas.
It's working for Andy.

[jowczarski]

If you want all of us kicked out of the locker room, good luck reading anything ever on your squad. The issue was an NFL Network cameraman not focusing tight on Adam Jones' face -- cameraman shooting 101, and the very first thing you do. What made it worse was that it wasn't a live shot (it was a live show) so editors at the NFL Network saw this and STILL put it on the air. So now, the players are mad at all media because of this mistake.

Yes, I can agree with the players that it's not ideal that we can see them enter and leave the shower. But at home, you don't really see it because it's a big space and you don't bother guys in those moments. The visiting locker rooms are designed to be inconvenient, small, and crowded. This is because NFL teams don't want opponents to have nice accommodations. It's part of the homefield advantage. But this is totally on NFLN, and we're all getting lumped into the argument.

I'm not going to go into the mechanics of how the day-to-day works, but I guarantee you that if the PR staffs around the league had to go get players out of the locker room and bring them to a holding area -- that would last all of one game or two days. Why? The players and coaches would HATE IT.

[Vas Deferens]

(10-22-2015, 07:20 PM)jowczarski Wrote: If you want all of us kicked out of the locker room, good luck reading anything ever on your squad. The issue was an NFL Network cameraman not focusing tight on Adam Jones' face -- cameraman shooting 101, and the very first thing you do. What made it worse was that it wasn't a live shot (it was a live show) so editors at the NFL Network saw this and STILL put it on the air. So now, the players are mad at all media because of this mistake.

Yes, I can agree with the players that it's not ideal that we can see them enter and leave the shower. But at home, you don't really see it because it's a big space and you don't bother guys in those moments. The visiting locker rooms are designed to be inconvenient, small, and crowded. This is because NFL teams don't want opponents to have nice accommodations. It's part of the homefield advantage. But this is totally on NFLN, and we're all getting lumped into the argument.

I'm not going to go into the mechanics of how the day-to-day works, but I guarantee you that if the PR staffs around the league had to go get players out of the locker room and bring them to a holding area -- that would last all of one game or two days. Why? The players and coaches would HATE IT.

Figured there was no way it was a live feed.  Pretty ridiculous.  I would suggest the players union fining the NFLN for conduct detrimental.

Jim, I don't know how to say this and please don't take it the wrong way, but you are the last guy I want kicked out of a locker room...

[BengalsRocker]

(10-22-2015, 09:39 AM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Makes it a bit better then, just didn't see anything that initially implied sarcasm. It just drives me crazy when I see them add "gate" to the end of everything that happens, lol.

I sense a Gate-gate coming on.

[Bryan]

(10-22-2015, 07:20 PM)jowczarski Wrote: If you want all of us kicked out of the locker room, good luck reading anything ever on your squad. The issue was an NFL Network cameraman not focusing tight on Adam Jones' face -- cameraman shooting 101, and the very first thing you do. What made it worse was that it wasn't a live shot (it was a live show) so editors at the NFL Network saw this and STILL put it on the air. So now, the players are mad at all media because of this mistake.

Yes, I can agree with the players that it's not ideal that we can see them enter and leave the shower. But at home, you don't really see it because it's a big space and you don't bother guys in those moments. The visiting locker rooms are designed to be inconvenient, small, and crowded. This is because NFL teams don't want opponents to have nice accommodations. It's part of the homefield advantage. But this is totally on NFLN, and we're all getting lumped into the argument.

I'm not going to go into the mechanics of how the day-to-day works, but I guarantee you that if the PR staffs around the league had to go get players out of the locker room and bring them to a holding area -- that would last all of one game or two days. Why? The players and coaches would HATE IT.

I understand all reporters are being unfairly lumped together, but the players have a point, they shouldn't have to change and get showered in the same area that they get interviewed in. If anything the interview should take place outside the locker room doors.

[Psycholomonkey]

(10-22-2015, 07:20 PM)jowczarski Wrote: If you want all of us kicked out of the locker room, good luck reading anything ever on your squad. The issue was an NFL Network cameraman not focusing tight on Adam Jones' face -- cameraman shooting 101, and the very first thing you do. What made it worse was that it wasn't a live shot (it was a live show) so editors at the NFL Network saw this and STILL put it on the air. So now, the players are mad at all media because of this mistake.

Yes, I can agree with the players that it's not ideal that we can see them enter and leave the shower. But at home, you don't really see it because it's a big space and you don't bother guys in those moments. The visiting locker rooms are designed to be inconvenient, small, and crowded. This is because NFL teams don't want opponents to have nice accommodations. It's part of the homefield advantage. But this is totally on NFLN, and we're all getting lumped into the argument.

I'm not going to go into the mechanics of how the day-to-day works, but I guarantee you that if the PR staffs around the league had to go get players out of the locker room and bring them to a holding area -- that would last all of one game or two days. Why? The players and coaches would HATE IT.

Your first sentence is ridiculous.  We appreciate the work you do, but this is not the only way to get a story, or necessary.  I for one am willing to never again see a locker room interview so they can have a little privacy.  Media has no right to insert themselves in the player's lives or demand a player's attention, ever.  This is always up to the player, something that would be easier if you get out of the locker room altogether.  Would it be so awful to talk to them after they are dressed and walking out?  Or later when they aren't so tired?

[Devils Advocate]

I've gotta agree with Bryan, psycholomonkey and the players. There has to be a little give on the part of the media here. If this happened in a female locker room, changes would be made immediately and that mysterious camera guy would be outta job.

Maybe the fix could come from the teams themselves. They could place dividers or partitions to block the view of the the areas directly in front of the lockers. Surely that area isn't needed to get a scoop. There's many possible fixes though. Players don't have to shower or change 1 min after the game ends. All I know is I don't have any desire to see naked grown men and locker roomgate is really funny

[Sled21]

Total agreement. There is nothing a player is going to say to the press he can't say ten minutes later after he's showered and dressed. This insertion of the press in the locker room, basically in the showers, is complete bullcrap as far as I'm concerned. You can get the same interview a few minutes later.

[HarleyDog]

(10-22-2015, 10:52 PM)Devils Advocate Wrote: I've gotta agree with Bryan, psycholomonkey and the players. There has to be a little give on th part of the media here. If this happened in a female locker room, changes would be made immediately and that mysterious camera guy would be outta job.

Cameraman would not be out of a job for long. The porn industry is still booming.

[HarleyDog]

(10-22-2015, 10:52 PM)Devils Advocate Wrote: I've gotta agree with Bryan, psycholomonkey and the players. There has to be a little give on th part of the media here. If this happened in a female locker room, changes would be made immediately and that mysterious camera guy would be outta job.

Cameraman would not be out of a job for long. The porn industry is still booming.

[XenoMorph]

(10-22-2015, 07:20 PM)jowczarski Wrote: If you want all of us kicked out of the locker room, good luck reading anything ever on your squad. The issue was an NFL Network cameraman not focusing tight on Adam Jones' face -- cameraman shooting 101, and the very first thing you do. What made it worse was that it wasn't a live shot (it was a live show) so editors at the NFL Network saw this and STILL put it on the air. So now, the players are mad at all media because of this mistake.

Yes, I can agree with the players that it's not ideal that we can see them enter and leave the shower. But at home, you don't really see it because it's a big space and you don't bother guys in those moments. The visiting locker rooms are designed to be inconvenient, small, and crowded. This is because NFL teams don't want opponents to have nice accommodations. It's part of the homefield advantage. But this is totally on NFLN, and we're all getting lumped into the argument.

I'm not going to go into the mechanics of how the day-to-day works, but I guarantee you that if the PR staffs around the league had to go get players out of the locker room and bring them to a holding area -- that would last all of one game or two days. Why? The players and coaches would HATE IT.

there is just no need for cameras in the locker rooms period interviews can be conducted with an audio tape. The only thing worth seeing in a locker room is the post game speach by the coach imo. Where do they even show these interviews i have hardly ever seen one. I listen to them on the radio as they have an hour block after the game for these interviews. But on TV its on to the next game. On NFL network they are showing the coaches post game conferences at a table (Not in a locker room)

what can be asked in a locker room that cant be asked in the formal post game press conferences?

[grampahol]

I'm suspecting the camera man was practicing his" wide stance" for another time. Perhaps he has a plan to run for the US Senate.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Wide+Stance

[fredtoast]

(10-23-2015, 11:29 AM)XenoMorph Wrote: there is just no need for cameras in the locker rooms period interviews can be conducted with an audio tape.  

This X 1000

(10-23-2015, 11:29 AM)XenoMorph Wrote: what can be asked in a locker room that cant be asked in the formal post game press conferences?

A lot of the best quotes come right after the game while the players are still all worked up.  Give them more time too cool down and we will never get any sort of a quote other than the string of standard cliches.

[Sled21]

Maybe the players need to start showing up in the media's showers with cameras.

[fredtoast]

(10-25-2015, 10:25 PM)Sled21 Wrote: Maybe the players need to start showing up in the media's showers with cameras.

"So. tell me, Erin Andrews, what did you think of my game last Sunday?"

[Benton]

(10-22-2015, 09:33 PM)Psycholomonkey Wrote: Your first sentence is ridiculous.  We appreciate the work you do, but this is not the only way to get a story, or necessary.  I for one am willing to never again see a locker room interview so they can have a little privacy.  Media has no right to insert themselves in the player's lives or demand a player's attention, ever.  This is always up to the player, something that would be easier if you get out of the locker room altogether.  Would it be so awful to talk to them after they are dressed and walking out?  Or later when they aren't so tired?

First off, it's not ridiculous. Deadlines are deadlines. Whether it's print or the more flexible online, it's still a deadline. If media have to work around when it's convenient for everyone, then it doesn't work for anyone. For broadcast, you've got to get the few minutes of footage and have time to edit it before it goes on air, which may have to fit into a tight window. For print (both online and paper), you've got to get the info, write it, run it by your editors, package it with the art and then get it out. That takes time. And, more importantly, if you wait until everyone is ready on their schedule, the majority of the time you're going to miss someone.

As far as the bold, it goes with the job. The owners don't pay a QB $20 million to throw a football. That figure includes being the face of the franchise — attending events, being a community member and talking to the media. Same way with all the guys on the team. If the owners want coverage because it's good for the team.