The regression of Jessie Bates

[*bfine32*]

If folks are suggesting Bates' performance is being downgraded because the players in front of him are performing better; then what's the benefit of signing him?

[Shake n Blake]

(11-03-2021, 06:29 PM)J24 Wrote: Shake he was a top 10 safety (or close to it) his rookie season and he was a top 12 safety in the 2nd half of the 2019 season. Outside of a bad start to the 2019  season the guy has been excellent during his time here. Neither Williams or Iloka could claim that.

PFF grades
2018- 79.9
2019(2nd half)75.5
2020-90.1

You can't just remove half a season because it doesn't fit the narrative you want though.

He had a 61.2 grade in 2019 and a 61.4 this year. So it really looks like this:

2018: Very good
2019: Slightly above average maybe?
2020: Elite
2021: Slightly above average maybe?

So which guy are we getting if we ink him to a big contract? I value consistency if you're dropping a big contract on a dude.

[Shake n Blake]

(11-03-2021, 04:54 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: I agree. But I still think he is a must sign

Agreed. Plus Reiff has already said he's willing to change positions if needed...which he has done before. I value versatile linemen and team players. Plus I don't see him breaking the bank.

[*ochocincos*]

(11-03-2021, 06:41 PM)J24 Wrote: What I'm saying is I think Rieff will be a good player for us for the next couple of seasons and we won't need to draft his replacement this upcoming draft because of it.

I agree. I'm fine with re-signing Reiff.
If the Bengals can re-sign Reiff and Spain and get a new C, I think this OL can be good.

[Dr.Z]

(11-03-2021, 12:25 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: Bates is 4th or even 5th on my priority re-signing list. And I hate that a lot of fans are doing the "Mike Brown MUST pay Bates" crap. Reiff is gonna need a new deal, Hendrickson, if Hilton or Awuzie are on 1 year contracts, they need to be signed. I put all these guys ahead of Bates

I agree with this.  I'd add Ogun to the list as well.