Fake Flea Flicker

[*PhilHos*]

I can honestly say I've NEVER seen a fake flea flicker before. I've seen flea flickers blown up when the RB gets tackled before he can toss the ball back, but I've never seen the RB fake to toss the ball back, turn around and just run the ball.

I give Zac crap for his playcalling, but gotta give him credit for that play (unless it's Callahan that deserves the credit )

[Au165]

It is interesting because it had the same effect as a draw play so it was a pretty cool wrinkle. By the way...they need to run more draw plays on downs other than 3rd and long.

[*bfine32*]

I heard Zac called for an actual Flea Flicker that was designed to lose 10 yards, but Mixon went rogue.

[*PhilHos*]

(11-22-2021, 12:47 PM)bfine32 Wrote: I heard Zac called for an actual Flea Flicker that was designed to lose 10 yards, but Mixon went rogue.

Oh God, now BOTH Joes are going rogue?! 

[KillerGoose]

(11-22-2021, 12:45 PM)Au165 Wrote: It is interesting because it had the same effect as a draw play so it was a pretty cool wrinkle. By the way...they need to run more draw plays on downs other than 3rd and long.

Agreed, especially on some of these second downs. Cincinnati is passing 57% of the time on second downs. Mixing in some draws could help work up some extra space. 

Just a note to point out that Tampa Bay is passing 80% of the time on second downs, and that is absolutely wild to me. 

[Murdock2420]

(11-22-2021, 12:50 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Oh God, now BOTH Joes are going rogue?! 

Soon the entire offense will go rogue.

But only on plays that are successful. 

[*PhilHos*]

(11-22-2021, 12:56 PM)Murdock2420 Wrote: Soon the entire offense will go rogue.

But only on plays that are successful. 

But, of course. 

[Goalpost]

I've never seen that either.

[Bengalitis]

(11-22-2021, 12:50 PM)PhilHos Wrote: Oh God, now BOTH Joes are going rogue?! 

Nah.. we've yet to see Mixon wearing his clown suit photo like Burrow. 

[*Synric*]

(11-22-2021, 12:45 PM)Au165 Wrote: It is interesting because it had the same effect as a draw play so it was a pretty cool wrinkle. By the way...they need to run more draw plays on downs other than 3rd and long.

My biggest issue with the offense is they aren't using the basic built in misdirections for their schemes. The Bengals are a wide zone under center running team that are dead last in the NFL in play action attempts. They are a shotgun passing team that are back half in RPOs (21st with 15 total) with very very few quick RB swings that are basically a run play.

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

In my nearly 40 years of watching/playing/being around football.... I've never seen that play.

[Truck_1_0_1_]

(11-22-2021, 12:43 PM)PhilHos Wrote: I can honestly say I've NEVER seen a fake flea flicker before. I've seen flea flickers blown up when the RB gets tackled before he can toss the ball back, but I've never seen the RB fake to toss the ball back, turn around and just run the ball.

I give Zac crap for his playcalling, but gotta give him credit for that play (unless it's Callahan that deserves the credit )

I may be completely off, but I could've sworn that Perine did that last year or BScott did it once, back in 2009-2011.

But it was AWESOME indeed.

(11-22-2021, 12:45 PM)Au165 Wrote: It is interesting because it had the same effect as a draw play so it was a pretty cool wrinkle. By the way...they need to run more draw plays on downs other than 3rd and long.

I said to my wife yesterday (and she didn't know what I was talking about ) that I saw a couple of opportunities for delayed draws, like what the Stoolers used to do with Bell and that got me thinking that maybe they should try that going forward.

[XenoMorph]

Yeah cant tell if it was a Fake or When mixon turned around Burrow waived him off so he just kept it and ran... but it worked whatever it was.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(11-22-2021, 12:43 PM)PhilHos Wrote: I can honestly say I've NEVER seen a fake flea flicker before. I've seen flea flickers blown up when the RB gets tackled before he can toss the ball back, but I've never seen the RB fake to toss the ball back, turn around and just run the ball.

I give Zac crap for his playcalling, but gotta give him credit for that play (unless it's Callahan that deserves the credit )

Yes, wild play and I liked it a lot.

[*ochocincos*]

I thought Pollack was the one calling the running plays.
If so, I wonder if this technically fell under a running play or not, and therefore I wonder how much Taylor was involved in the play call.

[KillerGoose]

(11-22-2021, 01:47 PM)Synric Wrote: My biggest issue with the offense is they aren't using the basic built in misdirections for their schemes. The Bengals are a wide zone under center running team that are dead last in the NFL in play action attempts. They are a shotgun passing team that are back half in RPOs (21st with 15 total) with very very few quick RB swings that are basically a run play.

Bengals are 21st in PA%, at least. The reason their raw attempts are so low is because the Bengals aren't passing often all that often - 28th in the league in total attempts. 

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(11-22-2021, 02:24 PM)ochocincos Wrote: I thought Pollack was the one calling the running plays.
If so, I wonder if this technically fell under a running play or not, and therefore I wonder how much Taylor was involved in the play call.

We don't know who calls the plays honestly, Brian, Zac, Pollack, that dude that does analytics or whatever....

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If the field wasn't so terrible I think that one breaks for 15+ yards.

[*rfaulk34*]

(11-22-2021, 12:43 PM)PhilHos Wrote: I can honestly say I've NEVER seen a fake flea flicker before. I've seen flea flickers blown up when the RB gets tackled before he can toss the ball back, but I've never seen the RB fake to toss the ball back, turn around and just run the ball.

I give Zac crap for his playcalling, but gotta give him credit for that play (unless it's Callahan that deserves the credit )

Me neither. I laughed when it happened and though it was a great play.

[*Synric*]

(11-22-2021, 02:29 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: Bengals are 21st in PA%, at least. The reason their raw attempts are so low is because the Bengals aren't passing often all that often - 28th in the league in total attempts. 

My point is the Bengals are rarely put defenders in conflict. Their offense has been very straight forward and missing alot of the plays from both the wide zone and the spread gun that make those offenses work.