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BJ Hill has been such an important addition to the team. Dude is playing so well. I hope he's with us beyond this year.
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(12-27-2021, 12:54 PM)pally Wrote:
I am hoping we get Reader and Kareem ack next week. That is huge as our DL can then rotate more and be better rested to get after Mahommes
I also see a nice adjustment by Taylor putting Chase in the slot. He has proven he has great run after the catch ability, speed and quickness to get open. Some may say why now and what was ZT waiting for? The slot is a lot of timing and WR/QB reads so takes time to develop the trust needed. A bad read can mean an interception in a hurry
2024 may go on record as one of most underperforming teams in Bengal history. Bengal's FO has major work to do on defensive side of the ball. I say tag and trade Tee Higgins in 2025 to start with the rebuild.
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A lot of people still dog Apple, and rightfully so. His only consistency his entire career (including college) has been inconsistency.
But last several games he's been pretty damn good. Will it continue ? I sure hope.
And I'm a little surprised JB's rating isn't in the 90's
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Hopkins is looking better every week. This is an underrated truth in a great way for our Bengals, Burrow and the Offense.
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(12-27-2021, 12:54 PM)pally Wrote:
That Chase out of the slot number is sick. I hope we keep doing that in the following 2 weeks of the regular season (and beyond.)
I would like Fred Johnson to be given another chance at RT. I am not a huge fan of Prince there.
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Are the full PFF grades out yet?
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I wonder how the Ravens ratings come out this week..I'm guessing not too spiffy.
In the immortal words of my old man, "Wait'll you get to be my age!"
Chicago sounds rough to the maker of verse, but the one comfort we have is Cincinnati sounds worse. ~Oliver Wendal Holmes Sr.
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(12-27-2021, 12:54 PM)pally Wrote:
Good stuff. I think you had a type with Burrow....should have been 99.9, not 89.9. 
The note on Hopkins is huge.
I have a sneaky feeling that Bates wins this game with a late INT.
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(12-27-2021, 01:09 PM)Luvnit2 Wrote: I am hoping we get Reader and Kareem ack next week. That is huge as our DL can then rotate more and be better rested to get after Mahommes
I also see a nice adjustment by Taylor putting Chase in the slot. He has proven he has great run after the catch ability, speed and quickness to get open. Some may say why now and what was ZT waiting for? The slot is a lot of timing and WR/QB reads so takes time to develop the trust needed. A bad read can mean an interception in a hurry
Chase was playing wideout to take advantage of his long ball capabilities. Now that teams are focused on taking that away, they move him to the slot so he can beat them from there.
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(12-27-2021, 10:58 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Hopkins is looking better every week. This is an underrated truth in a great way for our Bengals, Burrow and the Offense.
Yes. The eye test has backed up those numbers. Hopkins has looked pretty good since the bye.
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(12-27-2021, 11:09 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: That Chase out of the slot number is sick. I hope we keep doing that in the following 2 weeks of the regular season (and beyond.)
I would like Fred Johnson to be given another chance at RT. I am not a huge fan of Prince there.
Johnson was out with either and injury or Covid list this week. Can't remember which.
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(12-29-2021, 11:36 AM)Wyche Wrote: Johnson was out with either and injury or Covid list this week. Can't remember which.
"non-covid illness"
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(12-29-2021, 11:35 AM)Wyche Wrote: Yes. The eye test has backed up those numbers. Hopkins has looked pretty good since the bye.
This is a big deal for both our running game and our passing game. If Hopkins plays well we are hard to stop.
Pressure up the middle destroys your Offense more than anything depending on the QB and discipline of the Defense.
Would be nice to see Ogunjobi and company destroy the middle of that Chiefs OL sending Mahomes into Sam/Trey.
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PFF year to date. Top snap counts at each spot, then listed by snap counts.
QB: Burrow: 91.4
RB: Mixon: 80.8
WR: Chase: 78.5
WR: Higgins: 86.1
WR: Boyd: 72.6
TE: Uzomah: 61.9
LT: Williams: 75.1
LG: Spain: 72.4
C: Hopkins: 50.8
RG: Adeniji: 51.8
RT: Reiff: 67.2
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TE: Sample: 57.9
OG: Carman: 52.7
OT: Prince: 65.4 (excelled in jumbo packages)
RB: Perine: 64.1
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C: Hill: 53.4
OG: Su'a-Filo: 50.0
WR: Tate: 69.6
--------100 snaps
WR: Thomas: 66.7
WR: Morgan Jr.: 57.8
OT: Johnson: 80.9
RB: Evans: 73.5
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(12-29-2021, 03:42 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: PFF year to date. Top snap counts at each spot, then listed by snap counts.
QB: Burrow: 91.4
RB: Mixon: 80.8
WR: Chase: 78.5
WR: Higgins: 86.1
WR: Boyd: 72.6
TE: Uzomah: 61.9
LT: Williams: 75.1
LG: Spain: 72.4
C: Hopkins: 50.8
RG: Adeniji: 51.8
RT: Reiff: 67.2
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TE: Sample: 57.9
OG: Carman: 52.7
OT: Prince: 65.4 (excelled in jumbo packages)
RB: Perine: 64.1
---------- 200 snaps-----
C: Hill: 53.4
OG: Su'a-Filo: 50.0
WR: Tate: 69.6
--------100 snaps
WR: Thomas: 66.7
WR: Morgan Jr.: 57.8
OT: Johnson: 80.9
RB: Evans: 73.5
what the YTD don't reflect is that so many of them have improved as the year has progressed
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(12-29-2021, 03:42 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: PFF year to date. Top snap counts at each spot, then listed by snap counts.
QB: Burrow: 91.4
RB: Mixon: 80.8
WR: Chase: 78.5
WR: Higgins: 86.1
WR: Boyd: 72.6
TE: Uzomah: 61.9
LT: Williams: 75.1
LG: Spain: 72.4
C: Hopkins: 50.8
RG: Adeniji: 51.8
RT: Reiff: 67.2
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TE: Sample: 57.9
OG: Carman: 52.7
OT: Prince: 65.4 (excelled in jumbo packages)
RB: Perine: 64.1
---------- 200 snaps-----
C: Hill: 53.4
OG: Su'a-Filo: 50.0
WR: Tate: 69.6
--------100 snaps
WR: Thomas: 66.7
WR: Morgan Jr.: 57.8
OT: Johnson: 80.9
RB: Evans: 73.5
Thought Jonah has been having a good year contrary to what some have said on here. Being a starting LT ain't easy in the NFL.
Whit made it look easy after he sucked for a year or two, takes some time. Fred I hope starts at RT the rest of the season and
in the Playoffs if we make it. I like using Prince in jumbo packages. Think Adeniji has looked better than that grade but same with
Carman who is a bit better. No surprise on the grades of our skill positions.
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(12-29-2021, 03:49 PM)pally Wrote: what the YTD don't reflect is that so many of them have improved as the year has progressed
For sure, Hopkins is playing much better right now. I don't care who you were, I care who you are.
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(12-29-2021, 03:50 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I like using Prince in jumbo packages.
I trust Pollack 100% but man I would love to see Carman seize the jumbo package role. In his fairly limited playing time I've seen him get after some dudes and put them on their ass.
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Defense:
DE: Hendrickson: 73.1
NT: Reader: 81.7
DT: Ogunjobi: 50.3
DE: Hubbard: 63.9
LB: L. Wilson: 51.7
LB: Pratt: 46.1
CB: Awuzie: 79.3
CB: Apple: 61.8
CB: Hilton: 71.0
SS: Bell: 73.8
FS: Bates: 58.1
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DT: Hill: 71.5
NT/DT: Tupou: 61.4
DE: Sample: 52.1
-----------200 snaps
LB: ADG: 60.2
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CB: Waynes: 49.8
LB: Bachie: 51.8
S. R. Allen: 56.5
DE: Ray: 58.4
LB: Bailey: 59.1
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CB: Phillips: 62.8
S: B. Wilson: 58.3
CB: Flowers: 52.3
CB: Davis: 69.3
DE: Kareem: 86.2
LB: Evans: 57.7
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