Burrow , MVP?

[Sled21]

(01-02-2022, 11:53 PM)sandwedge Wrote: Our no name Franchise QB!!

Spongebob Burrow

[Nicomo Cosca]

Burrow has only thrown 3 INTs since the bye. Putting the ball in danger was a big deal the first half of the season, he said he was gonna fix it, and by God he has. https://t.co/RqFC8A7vdu

— Andrew Russell (@PFF_AndrewR) January 3, 2022

Every time Burrow vows to fix something - - he does.

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(01-03-2022, 12:09 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:

Burrow has only thrown 3 INTs since the bye. Putting the ball in danger was a big deal the first half of the season, he said he was gonna fix it, and by God he has. https://t.co/RqFC8A7vdu

— Andrew Russell (@PFF_AndrewR) January 3, 2022

Every time Burrow vows to fix something - - he does.

Yeah

[CJD]

Can we have the happy, grateful optimistic Tony in the gameday threads?

[Tony]

(01-02-2022, 07:05 PM)bengalfan74 Wrote: For sure he's in it. Comeback player as well.

He's gonna get comeback for sure.  Dak assd out today...

[Nicomo Cosca]

(01-03-2022, 12:51 AM)Tony Wrote: He's gonna get comeback for sure.  Dak assd out today...

You’re underestimating “because Cowboys.” I won’t believe it’s Joe’s until it happens.

[Truck_1_0_1_]

(01-02-2022, 11:07 PM)jfkbengals Wrote: I wasn't saying there is one right now.

In fact, I can't even think of any teams running that type of system right now.  But that wasn't the point.  The point was you CAN have a high rating in that type of offense.  In fact, that was one of the main reasons they came up with the formula in the first place, so they could compare the seasons of different QBs without having to figure in the offensive system.

(01-02-2022, 11:27 PM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Well, we're just gonna have to agree to disagree on the dink and dunkers then cause i looked back several years and you won't find any. 

I do get what you're saying cause i've seen others post similarly...but in the course of the year, if a guy is just dropping it off mostly, he's going to have a higher (slightly, maybe, with where comp%s are nowadays) percentage, should have a lower int rate but unless they throw a lot in the redzone, he's not going to get a lot of td passes. 

It sounds legit in theory, but it doesn't stand up to reality. 

(01-02-2022, 11:59 PM)KillerGoose Wrote: Interestingly enough...Mahomes and Herbert don't have favorable intended air yards per attempt metrics. Mahomes is 25th and Herbert is 23rd. Rodgers is 17th, Brady is 14th. I'm not sure what the best way to quantify a dink-and-dunker is, so I am not saying you're wrong but I am genuinely surprised that these guys are this low in air yards per attempt. 

Tons of context to those throws, though, so the discussion could be fleshed out. This where I am getting that data from. 

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2021/passing_advanced.htm

It's a point-of-equilibrium thing; you can only go so high with dinking and dunking, but to get above 100 and higher, you MUST hit 3/4 or 4/4 factors.

Just like you can go high with a lot of TDs and deep throws, but if you're throwing picks and missing people left and right, it won't be much.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DaltAn00/gamelog/2013/ 88.8.

- Lots of TDs
- Lots of INTs
- 61.95% Comp.
- 7.3 YPA

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PalmCa00/gamelog/2006/ 93.9

- Less TDs
- Less INTs
- 62.3% Comp.
- 7.7 YPA

(Before today) https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BurrJo01/gamelog/2021/ 105

- In between, TDs
- In between INTs
- 69.8% Comp.
- 8.6 YPA

Burrow's is much higher as he has significantly-better of the two stats where the older guys, were about average/above average, despite being in the middle for both picks and TDs.

Again, either dinking and dunking (or the opposite), can only get your rating so high; you need to do better in the other 2, to get it really high.

EDIT* Sorry, Goose; accidentally quoted you

[Tony]

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[Sled21]

(01-03-2022, 12:47 AM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: Can we have the happy, grateful optimistic Tony in the gameday threads?

Do people in GD still have no faith in pur players?

[Tony]

(01-03-2022, 01:31 AM)Sled21 Wrote: Do people in GD still have no faith in pur players?

I'm in the moment way to much they are right, I'm so use to the Bengals of old it's a hard habit to break,  but these guys deserve the support. Down 14-0 to the chiefs they earned it..