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For a dominant punt returner and punter will be an open competition
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I still like Chris Evans in that role.
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Special teams play has gotten watered down by rules changes in recent years, for a worthy cause in the name of player safety, yet the punt return still remains as an opportunity for an electrifying, momentum shifting moment in the game.
Hard to argue with Simmon's desire for a fearless return man.
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(03-03-2022, 01:18 PM)pally Wrote: For a dominant punt returner and punter will be an open competition
Phillips put the fear of God in me praying he would catch the damn ball. You're welcome 49ers....
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(03-03-2022, 01:21 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I still like Chris Evans in that role.
Evans is ok, but am I the only one who thinks he doesnt play near as fast as his clocked 4.4 forty time?
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Bring back the Pac as a punt returner only....
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I'm all for great special teams players. But it seems to me kick and punt returning has become less a part of the game over the years. I'd be fine with a player that knows when to call a fair catch and when to run it that also doesn't drop the ball. But again I'm not against looking for a kick and punt returner that has the potential for the occasional big play. I just don't think it is a huge priority given the way the return game has changed and when looking for said player it should not result in passing up on players in other positions of need IMO.
But it's kind of like the wanting o-line players that eat glass thing. Wanting them and looking for them is one thing. Actually evaluating the talent and finding them is another.
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(03-03-2022, 01:21 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I still like Chris Evans in that role.
He concerns me at times with the way he carries the ball.
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I can’t recall one bad punt/kick return from Chris Evans
I also like the white guy back there
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I would love a new Punter - I don't know his name off the top of my head but I hear there's a good one that can be had in the 5th round
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Trent Taylor was really good, in my opinion. I don't think we need a Devin Hester. Just a sure handed player who won't fumble the ball. If he's also dangerous with the ball in his hands, great. Just avoid the 49ers game situation.
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(03-03-2022, 01:57 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: I can’t recall one bad punt/kick return from Chris Evans
I also like the white guy back there
Evans didn't have any PRs in a game, only KRs.
He was pretty solid as a KR.
2 KRs for 58 yards in regular season (29.0 YPR), but 9 for 211 yards in postseason (23.4 YPR).
I would assume from Simmons quote that they would be looking elsewhere for a PR.
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(03-03-2022, 02:08 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: Trent Taylor was really good, in my opinion. I don't think we need a Devin Hester. Just a sure handed player who won't fumble the ball. If he's also dangerous with the ball in his hands, great. Just avoid the 49ers game situation.
I dunno if I'd go that far.
While we do want someone who is reliable, it will help to get an extra 5-10 yards on returns.
Maybe though if the offense really does get upgraded, that extra 5-10 yards won't make a difference.
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(03-03-2022, 01:25 PM)casear2727 Wrote: Evans is ok, but am I the only one who thinks he doesnt play near as fast as his clocked 4.4 forty time?
I don't mean to bash the guy. He has not looked bad. But he has done nothing either in college to justify the love he gets from some fans.
Reminds me of the hype Adeniji got around here. I never understood why so many fans were excited about him.
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(03-03-2022, 02:08 PM)Crazyjdawg Wrote: Trent Taylor was really good, in my opinion. I don't think we need a Devin Hester. Just a sure handed player who won't fumble the ball. If he's also dangerous with the ball in his hands, great. Just avoid the 49ers game situation.
We had that guy, his name was Alex Erickson. A decent return average, as a product of good special teams execution across the board. Not flashy, just sure handed with a radar to find the sideline. Not going to electrify, but also not going to leave you in shitty starting field position.
While that style works, I also like having the dangerous guy back there that is a threat to take it to the house.
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(03-03-2022, 02:18 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: We had that guy, his name was Alex Erickson. A decent return average, as a product of good special teams execution across the board. Not flashy, just sure handed with a radar to find the sideline. Not going to electrify, but also not going to leave you in shitty starting field position.
While that style works, I also like having the dangerous guy back there that is a threat to take it to the house.
Erickson fumbled way too much.
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(03-03-2022, 02:14 PM)fredtoast Wrote: I don't mean to bash the guy. He has not looked bad. But he has done nothing either in college to justify the love he gets from some fans.
Reminds me of the hype Adeniji got around here. I never understood why so many fans were excited about him.
Chris Evans had a great freshman year at Michigan, again I ask what are you talking about Fred?
To the OP, I like it. Would love to get a Punt Returner who is a bit like Adam Jones or something alike. I don't know about the
Returners in this Draft yet, haven't really looked at any of them. Will have to now with what Simmons says. As others have said
the Return game is different today with all the rules but still if you got a dangerous guy back there he can change the game in
your favor in the blink of an eye it is a great thing to have.
And you can get them late in the Draft where Simmons gets his picks.
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Poka Williams may be good as KR/PR. Evans is solid and doesn't give me a heart attack when the ball is in his hands.
WTS, I think Bengals will draft Matt Araiza in round 5 and maybe draft another late round CB to compete in similar return roles.
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This guy can be had in the 6th rd IMO. I'd prefer a CB/WR guy who can fill in nicely if needed if injuries arise.
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(03-03-2022, 02:08 PM)QueenCity Wrote: I would love a new Punter - I don't know his name off the top of my head but I hear there's a good one that can be had in the 5th round
Matt Araiza
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