08-05-2022, 09:33 AM
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There is a significant hole on this team...
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08-05-2022, 01:42 PM
(08-05-2022, 09:09 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: This isn't a BJ Hill vs Ogunjobi thread. I'm fine with them essentially paying BJ Hill over Ogunjobi. I know it is your thread Weezy but that is exactly what this is about. BJ Hill vs Ogunjobi. BJ Hill is replacing Ogunjobi in the starting spot at 3-tech. Zach Carter, Cam Sample and Sam Hubbard will be trying to replace what BJ Hill did behind Ogunjobi.
08-05-2022, 01:53 PM
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08-05-2022, 02:34 PM
(08-05-2022, 01:42 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: I know it is your thread Weezy but that is exactly what this is about. BJ Hill vs Ogunjobi. BJ Hill is replacing Ogunjobi in the No I think it's more so BJ Hill's roster spot last year vs. Carter, Sample, etc. roster spot this year. Those are the guys that are replacing BJ Hills productivity and snaps from last year. The boys are just talkin' ball, babyyyy
08-05-2022, 02:54 PM
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08-05-2022, 05:36 PM
(08-05-2022, 02:34 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: No I think it's more so BJ Hill's roster spot last year vs. Carter, Sample, etc. roster spot this year. Those are the guys that are replacing BJ Hills productivity and snaps from last year. Well yeah, BJ Hill is just moving up into Ogunjobi's spot is all. Hopefully those 2 can play as well as BJ did for us last season. All I know is I like Cam Sample already who has gained some weight so he can play 3-tech and Carter has been impressing. (08-05-2022, 02:54 PM)J24 Wrote: It was actually Pat Sims that he said that about.Thorton never played with Geno. Ahh, thanks J24. That is what was up. I liked Sims more than Thornton at the time too.
08-05-2022, 07:25 PM
(08-05-2022, 09:12 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: You have no way of knowing that. They could also suck. Who do you suggest the Bengals add to alleviate your worries that is realistic ? The water tastes funny when you're far from your home, yet it's only the thirsty that hunger to roam. Roam the Jungle !
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08-05-2022, 08:49 PM
(08-05-2022, 07:25 PM)Go Cards Wrote: Who do you suggest the Bengals add to alleviate your worries that is realistic ? Sure would be nice to hear an idea or a solution to fill this so called hole no doubt lol All I have been hearing and seeing is Zachary Carter playing great behind BJ Hill. Might not be a hole at all after all if this is the case.
08-06-2022, 01:40 AM
08-06-2022, 10:26 AM
Their is a boy named SUH who is a little long in the tooth who could be productive as a rotational player
08-06-2022, 11:02 AM
You know what I see here? . . . A lesson on "perspective".
Here is a list of players who started at least half of the '19 season for us (8 games). John Ross Billy Price Michael Jordan Auden Tate B.W. Webb (I barely remember this guy and he started 12 games) Nick Vigil Bobby Hart John Jerry and Andre Smith started a combined 10 games and never played again. Renell Wren even started 2 games. But now we have a "significant" hole in our roster because we are sketchy at back up 3T. I am LOVING this.
08-06-2022, 11:36 AM
I'm not overly concerned about the d-line or the secondary until they give me a reason to be in meaningful games.
It's starting to sound like a broken record, but the Bengals need to start planning to shell out money to keep their core intact. The way to do that and still field a deep roster is by making smart, effective draft picks in middle rounds to fill rotational roles and eventually become significant contributors. That's exactly what I see them doing. Before the 2020 draft, the linebackers depth sucked. They used several picks on the position. Now the team has good, fairly experienced linebacker depth. In addition to that, they snagged Kareem, who's shown he can contribute at DE who needed. Before the 2021 draft, they needed depth on both lines. They drafted Ossai and Sample and Shelvin. Who knows what Shelvin is at this point? Ossai is a guy that seems capable he can get on the field, and Sample was solid and has a year of NFL seasoning under his belt. This year, they addressed the needs in the secondary with Hill, Taylor-Britt, and Tycen Anderson. They added Carter to fill out the depth chart behind BJ Hill. You also have flotsam like Wyatt and Gunter hanging around. A veteran depth signing here and there might not be the worst idea, but if some or many of the names I just typed don't pan out, then the team is in deep shit. I actually feel like the staff has a pretty good idea of what they are doing and trust that they have guys in house that can step into the needed roles. As for what they might actually need, I'm still a bit worried about the backup quarterback and the 3rd down back positions. If Evans can't stay healthy, I don't think the current plan with Perine is all that potent. Mixon apparently doesn't have a lot of interest in blocking, or perhaps he's just not good enough at it to be capable in the role. It's not a huge issue, but I think they could do better. This issue was exposed badly in the Super Bowl, and not much was done to address it at all in the offseason. Gio was a terrific blocker and was practically perfect in that role. His absence probably stung a little last season. He was making too much money, so I see the logic behind the cut, but the role has yet to be effectively filled.
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08-06-2022, 01:01 PM
(08-06-2022, 11:36 AM)samhain Wrote: I'm not overly concerned about the d-line or the secondary until they give me a reason to be in meaningful games. Excellent and comprehensive post. Without Cappa and Collins the OL has been awful in camp. That’s worrisome. I think it’s not completely indicative of disaster. I think the front 7 defense is pretty good. The defense is usually better early in camp. I think the offense will be fine but they need to get healthy soon so they can gel.
Romo “ so impressed with Zac ...1 of the best in the NFL… they are just fundamentally sound. Taylor the best winning % in the Playoffs of current coaches. Joe Burrow” Zac is the best head coach in the NFL & that gives me a lot of confidence." Taylor led the Bengals to their first playoff win since 1990, ending the longest active drought in the four major North American sports, en and appeared in Super Bowl LVI, the first since 1988.
08-06-2022, 01:27 PM
(08-04-2022, 12:39 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: and in my opinion, it's going to be the pass rush/secondary.I guess if you only take into account our losing Larry O. this would be a concern. But Carter will take some snaps and Ossai will take some pass rush snaps on 3rd down at DE pushing Hubbard inside. As for the secondary, Apple got better as the year went on, Bates admitted he did not give 100% effort this first half of 2021. We also have a few rookies in the secondary that I think will surprise some fans named Britt and Hill. I think our defense will also be better in 2022 because our running game behind our new OL will be better, our 3rd down offensive efficiency will be better and we will be better in the redzone. I am not worried, I am excited for 2022 for the Bengals to prove all of the naysayers wrong a 2nd year in a row. The experts flopped on predictions for the Bengals in 2021 and they are doubling down on the stupidity. This is a very good Bengals roster and like all good rosters they need to avoid key injuries (especially at QB). If they do, look out NFL in 2022.
I am so ready for 2024 season. I love pro football and hoping for a great Bengals year. Regardless, always remember it is a game and entertainment.
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08-06-2022, 02:18 PM
(08-05-2022, 09:09 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: This isn't a BJ Hill vs Ogunjobi thread. I'm fine with them essentially paying BJ Hill over Ogunjobi. I understand where you are coming from. But it’s hindsight sort of. I mean we had no idea we’d get that production out of those 2 this time last year. It’s about money. When they spend money it’s really like a business. It’s a spread sheet or balance sheet. How much to spend on each position group.
Romo “ so impressed with Zac ...1 of the best in the NFL… they are just fundamentally sound. Taylor the best winning % in the Playoffs of current coaches. Joe Burrow” Zac is the best head coach in the NFL & that gives me a lot of confidence." Taylor led the Bengals to their first playoff win since 1990, ending the longest active drought in the four major North American sports, en and appeared in Super Bowl LVI, the first since 1988.
08-06-2022, 05:08 PM
I think the biggest holes on this team now are...
1. LG 2. CB (I don't trust Apple) 3. Punter 4. #4 WR Not sure I see DT even being a top-4 concern right now. Even if we went top-5, I would put either LB (Wilson had high highs, low lows, very inconsistent, iffy on Pratt) or Collins' back there. ____________________________________________________________
08-06-2022, 06:56 PM
(08-06-2022, 11:36 AM)samhain Wrote: I'm not overly concerned about the d-line or the secondary until they give me a reason to be in meaningful games. Great post Samhain. Yes I think we are at the point of needing to add players in the Draft as rotational players like you say while keeping our roster intact. It is a great place to be and a place I cannot remember in all my time as a Bengals fan. These draft picks need to pan out and it gives me hope that they will if they don't get injured with the way guys like Logan Wilson have. We did it the right way and went in and got the dudes in FA so we have a great foundation around Burrow and company. Chase was a no brainer but there were lots on here including myself that would of been fine with Sewell or Pitts just the same, we clearly made the right choice there. I just hope we aren't picking that early in the Draft for a long damn time and when we do we need to try and do what these guys did the last 3 years in building everything back up again. It was a miraculous turn around as we saw last season and in our SuperBowl run.
08-06-2022, 07:00 PM
(08-06-2022, 05:08 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: I think the biggest holes on this team now are... Carman has been a Training Camp winner already, sure hope he keeps it up and takes that hole off your list. Promising hearing Carman playing well but we need to see it in the regular season or it don't mean anything. Still nice we haven't been hearing about him being out of shape at all or about any back problems. Actually saw Jackson leading the OL when doing sprints, he must be in damn good shape unlike last TC.
09-19-2022, 10:05 AM
To start the season:
28th in pass rush win rate 20th in pressure rate 27th in pass rush grade The defense has been OK - but pass rush is definitely an issue. The boys are just talkin' ball, babyyyy
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