Posts: 482
Threads: 4
Reputation:
3640
Joined: Oct 2015
You know what these stats don't tell you? And this is the most important part of these games....it's the motivation to win....by every player.
We heard the Bills say they were flat. Diggs was ticked off at his QB. Could go on. No one said they were motivated, though. No one said they thought they were the better team.
That's not a recipe for winning games. Regardless of the stats, we're lucky to have players like Burrow, Chase, Higgins, Mixon, Hendrickson, Reader, Hilton, etc. You never hear them dissing each other. All you hear from them is praise for each other (even when Burrow was getting pummeled earlier in the season, he never threw the OL under the bus), and the coaches....vice versa. All you hear is now they are the team to beat.
Stats don't tell you any of that, but by far, this attitude is what wins games.
Posts: 14,614
Threads: 2,112
Reputation:
82482
Joined: May 2015
Winning makes believers of us all
Posts: 5,240
Threads: 60
Reputation:
39414
Joined: Mar 2018
Location: Oklahoma
(01-24-2023, 11:38 AM)pally Wrote:
Those rankings are massively buoyed by the Carolina game. Here are the rankings if we remove that game...
EPA - 16th
Success Rate - 19th
Also, the run game has been quite poor since that Carolina game. Since week 10...
EPA - 21st
Success Rate - 25th
The Bengals are neither explosive or efficient running the ball. They just had a massive outlier that is skewing season data.
1
Posts: 7,774
Threads: 854
Reputation:
127740
Joined: May 2015
Location: Ohio
The Bengals are now favored by 2.5 points.
In the SB era, visiting teams favored in the CCG are 14-10 overall, and 7-4 in the last 11.
Posts: 27,837
Threads: 348
Reputation:
237721
Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 3,256
Threads: 103
Reputation:
21317
Joined: Apr 2019
All-Time Road Playoff Wins
11 Brady 4 losses
8 Staubach 2 losses
8 Flacco 5 losses
7 E Manning 2 losses
6 Roethlisberger 5 losses
5 Morall 2 losses
5 Rodgers 6 losses
4 Dawson 2 losses
4 Delhomme 2 losses
4 Sanchez 2 losses
4 Bradshaw 3 losses
4 Elway 4 losses
4 Rutledge 4 losses
4 Montana 5 losses
4 Wilson 5 losses
4 Brunell 5 losses
3 Burrow 0 losses
3 Kaepernick 1 loss
3 Dilfer 1 loss
3 McNair 2 losses
3 Mariota 3 losses
3 McNabb 4 losses
3 P. Manning 5 losses
3 Rivers 5 losses
3 Favre 8 losses
Only users lose drugs.
:-)-~~~
Posts: 27,837
Threads: 348
Reputation:
237721
Joined: Aug 2016
(01-25-2023, 12:19 AM)Forever Spinning Vinyl Wrote: All-Time Road Playoff Wins
11 Brady 4 losses
8 Staubach 2 losses
8 Flacco 5 losses
7 E Manning 2 losses
6 Roethlisberger 5 losses
5 Morall 2 losses
5 Rodgers 6 losses
4 Dawson 2 losses
4 Delhomme 2 losses
4 Sanchez 2 losses
4 Bradshaw 3 losses
4 Elway 4 losses
4 Rutledge 4 losses
4 Montana 5 losses
4 Wilson 5 losses
4 Brunell 5 losses
3 Burrow 0 losses
3 Kaepernick 1 loss
3 Dilfer 1 loss
3 McNair 2 losses
3 Mariota 3 losses
3 McNabb 4 losses
3 P. Manning 5 losses
3 Rivers 5 losses
3 Favre 8 losses
Either your numbers for Peyton and Montana are off, or this guy’s are…
Hopefully Burrow will finally start getting some normal off-seasons and we can be the ones hosting the AFC Championship games.
Posts: 3,256
Threads: 103
Reputation:
21317
Joined: Apr 2019
(01-25-2023, 03:20 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Either your numbers for Peyton and Montana are off, or this guy’s are…
Hopefully Burrow will finally start getting some normal off-seasons and we can be the ones hosting the AFC Championship games.
Yep.
https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/most-road-playoff-wins-by-a-quarterback
Their stats are not only incomplete but also wrong. All I looked at was the first two columns because that's all that I was looking for.
I'll re-do the list later.
Only users lose drugs.
:-)-~~~
Posts: 14,614
Threads: 2,112
Reputation:
82482
Joined: May 2015
Winning makes believers of us all
Posts: 27,837
Threads: 348
Reputation:
237721
Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 3,256
Threads: 103
Reputation:
21317
Joined: Apr 2019
Taken from the top 50 post season passing yards list, which Burrow is about to enter with 107 more yards. Johnny Unitas is #50 with 1,663 yards.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_yds_career_playoffs.htm
Road playoff wins
7 Brady 4 losses
7 Flacco 5 losses - 12 of 15 post season games on the road . . . 3-0 at home and neutral site
5 E Manning 2 losses
5 Roethlisberger 4 losses
5 Rodgers 6 losses
4 Staubach 1 loss
4 Delhomme 1 loss
3 Burrow
3 Elway 2 losses
3 McNair 2 losses
3 McNabb 4 losses
3 Brunell 4 losses
3 Wilson 5 losses
3 Rivers 5 losses
3 Favre 7 losses
2 Starr 1 loss
2 Plunkett 1 loss
2 Unitas 2 losses
2 Rypien 2 losses
2 Fouts 2 losses
2 Bradshaw 3 losses
2 Cunningham 3 losses
2 Luck 4 losses
2 Montana 5 losses
2 P Manning 5 losses
1 Tarkenton 1 loss
1 Graham 2 losses
1 Warner 2 losses
1 A Smith 2 losses
1 Simms 3 losses
1 Stafford 3 losses
1 Kelly 3 losses
1 Ryan 3 losses
1 Aikman 3 losses
1 Stabler 4 losses
1 D White 4 losses
1 Moon 4 losses
1 Brees 5 losses
1 Marino 6 losses
1 Kreig 6 losses
Has never won a road playoff game
Rich Gannon 0-1
Neil O'Donnell 0-1
Ron Jaworski 0-2
Cam Newton 0-2
Steve Young 0-3
Bernie Kosar 0-3
Daryle Lamonica 0-3
Josh Allen 0-3
Matt Hasslebeck 0-4
Has never played a road playoff game
Patrick Mahomes
Joe Theisman
Only users lose drugs.
:-)-~~~
1
Posts: 5,612
Threads: 18
Reputation:
19982
Joined: Apr 2020
(01-27-2023, 04:31 AM)Forever Spinning Vinyl Wrote: Taken from the top 50 post season passing yards list, which Burrow is about to enter with 107 more yards. Johnny Unitas is #50 with 1,663 yards.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_yds_career_playoffs.htm
Road playoff wins
7 Brady 4 losses
7 Flacco 5 losses - 12 of 15 post season games on the road . . . 3-0 at home and neutral site
5 E Manning 2 losses
5 Roethlisberger 4 losses
5 Rodgers 6 losses
4 Staubach 1 loss
4 Delhomme 1 loss
3 Burrow
3 Elway 2 losses
3 McNair 2 losses
3 McNabb 4 losses
3 Brunell 4 losses
3 Wilson 5 losses
3 Rivers 5 losses
3 Favre 7 losses
2 Starr 1 loss
2 Plunkett 1 loss
2 Unitas 2 losses
2 Rypien 2 losses
2 Fouts 2 losses
2 Bradshaw 3 losses
2 Cunningham 3 losses
2 Luck 4 losses
2 Montana 5 losses
2 P Manning 5 losses
1 Tarkenton 1 loss
1 Graham 2 losses
1 Warner 2 losses
1 A Smith 2 losses
1 Simms 3 losses
1 Stafford 3 losses
1 Kelly 3 losses
1 Ryan 3 losses
1 Aikman 3 losses
1 Stabler 4 losses
1 D White 4 losses
1 Moon 4 losses
1 Brees 5 losses
1 Marino 6 losses
1 Kreig 6 losses
Has never won a road playoff game
Rich Gannon 0-1
Neil O'Donnell 0-1
Ron Jaworski 0-2
Cam Newton 0-2
Steve Young 0-3
Bernie Kosar 0-3
Daryle Lamonica 0-3
Josh Allen 0-3
Matt Hasslebeck 0-4
Has never played a road playoff game
Patrick Mahomes
Joe Theisman
Great info. Though only the top 50 in yards. NFL only? No AFL/AAFL guys?
Posts: 3,256
Threads: 103
Reputation:
21317
Joined: Apr 2019
(01-27-2023, 01:45 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Great info. Though only the top 50 in yards. NFL only? No AFL/AAFL guys?
You're welcome to look it up yourself and add to the list. I looked up all 50 players and tallied it up myself.
Only users lose drugs.
:-)-~~~
Posts: 27,837
Threads: 348
Reputation:
237721
Joined: Aug 2016
Never thought I’d see the day the Bengals had a top 3 paid OL. Obviously trading Jonah would change that, but as it stands they have some serious money invested at that position.
Posts: 3,205
Threads: 101
Reputation:
18142
Joined: May 2015
(03-29-2023, 07:38 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:
Never thought I’d see the day the Bengals had a top 3 paid OL. Obviously trading Jonah would change that, but as it stands they have some serious money invested at that position.
If Jonah sticks at RT and Collins were to leave, that would also change things. 21m at RT between two guys currently.
Posts: 27,837
Threads: 348
Reputation:
237721
Joined: Aug 2016
(03-29-2023, 08:56 AM)Bengalbug Wrote: If Jonah sticks at RT and Collins were to leave, that would also change things. 21m at RT between two guys currently.
I don’t see them cutting Collins no matter what. I believe his contract is setup in a way he only gets paid when he plays, so he’s a good insurance policy for when Jonah inevitably gets hurt.
Posts: 36,116
Threads: 49
Reputation:
233403
Joined: May 2015
Location: Star Valley, Wyoming
(03-29-2023, 07:38 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote:
Never thought I’d see the day the Bengals had a top 3 paid OL. Obviously trading Jonah would change that, but as it stands they have some serious money invested at that position.
Great stuff Nicomo, that is where your money should be put, the trenches and the franchise QB.
(03-29-2023, 08:56 AM)Bengalbug Wrote: If Jonah sticks at RT and Collins were to leave, that would also change things. 21m at RT between two guys currently.
Highly doubt Jonah sticks at RT, I bet we trade him during or after the Draft or even pretty soon. I know Taylor said he would like
to see what Jonah does at RT, but it isn't a guarantee he beats out Jackson Carman there. My bet is Carman wins the job if we do
have an open competition. That wouldn't be good for Jonah's career.
(03-29-2023, 10:30 AM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: I don’t see them cutting Collins no matter what. I believe his contract is setup in a way he only gets paid when he plays, so he’s a good insurance policy for when Jonah inevitably gets hurt.
Exactly, makes no sense to cut LC. He is a good RT when he finally gets healthy, and we would have to give LC a settlement if we
did cut him while he is injured. Jonah is always injured pretty much anyways, trade the guy and Draft a RT to compete with Carman
is my vote.
Posts: 27,837
Threads: 348
Reputation:
237721
Joined: Aug 2016
Hubbard has been the best run stopping DE in the league over the past 5 years.
![[Image: F4IvK4AWIAIrixQ?format=jpg&name=large]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F4IvK4AWIAIrixQ?format=jpg&name=large)
Posts: 12,194
Threads: 214
Reputation:
56574
Joined: May 2015
Location: Lancaster, PA
(01-27-2023, 04:31 AM)Forever Spinning Vinyl Wrote: Taken from the top 50 post season passing yards list, which Burrow is about to enter with 107 more yards. Johnny Unitas is #50 with 1,663 yards.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_yds_career_playoffs.htm
Road playoff wins
7 Brady 4 losses
7 Flacco 5 losses - 12 of 15 post season games on the road . . . 3-0 at home and neutral site
5 E Manning 2 losses
5 Roethlisberger 4 losses
5 Rodgers 6 losses
4 Staubach 1 loss
4 Delhomme 1 loss
3 Burrow
3 Elway 2 losses
3 McNair 2 losses
3 McNabb 4 losses
3 Brunell 4 losses
3 Wilson 5 losses
3 Rivers 5 losses
3 Favre 7 losses
2 Starr 1 loss
2 Plunkett 1 loss
2 Unitas 2 losses
2 Rypien 2 losses
2 Fouts 2 losses
2 Bradshaw 3 losses
2 Cunningham 3 losses
2 Luck 4 losses
2 Montana 5 losses
2 P Manning 5 losses
1 Tarkenton 1 loss
1 Graham 2 losses
1 Warner 2 losses
1 A Smith 2 losses
1 Simms 3 losses
1 Stafford 3 losses
1 Kelly 3 losses
1 Ryan 3 losses
1 Aikman 3 losses
1 Stabler 4 losses
1 D White 4 losses
1 Moon 4 losses
1 Brees 5 losses
1 Marino 6 losses
1 Kreig 6 losses
Has never won a road playoff game
Rich Gannon 0-1
Neil O'Donnell 0-1
Ron Jaworski 0-2
Cam Newton 0-2
Steve Young 0-3
Bernie Kosar 0-3
Daryle Lamonica 0-3
Josh Allen 0-3
Matt Hasslebeck 0-4
Has never played a road playoff game
Patrick Mahomes
Joe Theisman
What I get from this post is that Joe Burrow has more road playoff victories than Patrick Mahomes, Rich Gannon, Neil O'Donnell, Ron Jaworski, Cam Newton, Steve Young, Bernie Kosar, Daryle Lamonica, Josh Allen, Matt Hasslebeck and Joe Theisman COMBINED. 
![[Image: giphy.gif]](http://media1.giphy.com/media/9EmYYw6o9cmsM/giphy.gif)
Posts: 19,552
Threads: 629
Reputation:
83981
Joined: Oct 2016
|
![[Image: 4CV0TeR.png]](https://i.imgur.com/4CV0TeR.png)
