PFF Grades - Week 7

[Bengalbug]

(10-24-2022, 12:51 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Year to date: 


Offensive starters: 
Burrow: 76.7 
Mixon: 65.8
Chase: 78.9 
Higgins: 77.4
Boyd: 74.5
Hurst: 63.7
Williams: 60.8
Volson: 52.8
Karras: 63.2
Cappa: 66.7
Collins: 54.9


Defensive starters: 
Hendrickson: 84.3
Reader: 91.0
Hill: 60.6
Hubbard: 74.4
Wilson: 68.2
Pratt: 58.9
Awuzie: 72.2
Apple: 43.8
Hilton: 71.7
Bell: 66.0
Bates: 60.6


Offensive subs (in snap count order): 
Wilcox: 54.9 (147) 
Thomas: 51.3 (145) 
Perine: 68.6 (128) 
Adeniji: 60.4 (49) 

Defensive Subs (snap counts) 
Tupou: 53.2 (186)
Carter: 29.4 (160)
ADG: 58.1 (149)
Sample: 54.1 (137) 
Ossai: 51.9 (118) 
Flowers: 60.8 (72) 
Tufele: 77.6 (44)

How does OL to date stack up against 2021 season?

[Daddy-O]

(10-25-2022, 12:35 AM)TheFan Wrote: That's the problem with PFF. One team barely gives up 100 passing yards and the other team gives up almost 500 yet the ratings are virtually the same or better for the team that almost gave up 500.

Make it make sense.

PFF is trash.  If this doesn't prove that point nothing will.

[TheFan]

(10-25-2022, 12:43 AM)rfaulk34 Wrote: Bengals coverage grades.

Hilton SCB - 81.6 (16)
Bates FS - 76.4 (20)
Awuzie RCB - 74.5 (20)
Bell SS - 65.1 (21)
Hill FS - 60.6 (2)
Flowers SS - 60.0 (1)
Taylor-Britt LCB - 41.2 (12)
Apple LCB - 29.0 (8)

Yea, to me, those numbers are way too similar to the Falcons numbers. 

[Whatever]

(10-25-2022, 12:35 AM)TheFan Wrote: That's the problem with PFF. One team barely gives up 100 passing yards and the other team gives up almost 500 yet the ratings are virtually the same or better for the team that almost gave up 500.

Make it make sense.

Keep in mind that Mariota had a 118.4 passer rating.  

[*Wyche'sWarrior*]

(10-25-2022, 10:22 AM)Whatever Wrote: Keep in mind that Mariota had a 118.4 passer rating.  

Also, there were more than a few plays where the Bengals just made great plays and were covered well. The Chase TD, Tyler Boyd with the one handed catch, and the twisting back shoulder catch, etc. I would guess that goes into grading?

[*Go Cards*]

(10-25-2022, 12:07 PM)Wyche Wrote: Also, there were more than a few plays where the Bengals just made great plays and were covered well. The Chase TD, Tyler Boyd with the one handed catch, and the twisting back shoulder catch, etc. I would guess that goes into grading?

Said this in another thread but as good as the one handed catch was that twisting back shoulder catch was just as sick. 

Boyd is so sure handed it's crazy and nobody could have blamed him one bit if either were dropped. 

Not that the passes were bad because they were money too. Especially since Joe had a LB'er getting ready to tee off on him on the one handed grab. 

Yet still the catches were just as amazing. 

[MickMack]

(10-25-2022, 12:07 PM)Wyche Wrote: Also, there were more than a few plays where the Bengals just made great plays and were covered well. The Chase TD, Tyler Boyd with the one handed catch, and the twisting back shoulder catch, etc. I would guess that goes into grading?

Yes, it does.  There is a universe where a player may have played a really good game, as much as you could ask of him, but the guy/guys on the other side just played that much better.  Alternatively, as an example, a defensive back may play poorly but for whatever reason the offense fails to take advantage of it.  That defensive back didn't have a great day just because it wasn't exploited.  He just got lucky.

[Housh]

Man I’m ngl idk why we look at these stats anymore


The Falcons DB rated similar to ours and they gave up 500 yards.


The stat is useless

[*rfaulk34*]

(10-27-2022, 05:31 PM)Housh Wrote: Man I’m ngl idk why we look at these stats anymore


The Falcons DB rated similar to ours and they gave up 500 yards.


The stat is useless

It's not a simple thing about yards. Boyd ran through a zone and 1 guy fell down to allow the TD. Chase's TD down the right sideline was a perfect throw over 2 defenders that were right on him and his other TD was a relatively short throw that he outran everyone to the EZ. 

As far as "similar", the Falcons had a couple guys that graded well. A safety, Terrell who only played 6 snaps and a corner who had an "average" grade. The 4 other DBs had below average grades. The Bengals had 4 DBs that graded average to above. The Bengals 4 DBs that graded below average had a total of 23 combined coverage snaps.

I'm not defending the grades because i've come to rely less and less on them to be as accurate as what i'm watching but it's not really true that the Falcons were graded similarly.