Welcome to the Jungle: Myles Murphy

[THE PISTONS]

(04-28-2023, 05:12 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: For sure. We play Baltimore, Cleveland, and Pittsburgh 6 time a year. Putting Sample in for Trey at DE vs Baltimore helped us a lot. 

Hendrickson is largely a 1 trick pony in pass rushing. He's not good versus the run.

[northernbengal]

(04-28-2023, 12:45 AM)WeezyBengal Wrote: Good video. Seems like a high risk high reward pick. I trust Lou and his ability as a DC. He 100% deserves benefit of the doubt. 

It’s hard to go wrong taking a talented pass rusher and he gets to learn from two good starters

[bengaloo]

(04-28-2023, 08:15 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote: There’s no way of defending the Bengals in their OL drafting. In free agency it’s YTBD. But we’ve argued Volson. We aren’t going to change minds and his grade is YTBD.  Carman they got bad intel from someone they absolutely trusted. They don’t consult him anymore. Learned who it was today. Carman’s all around work ethic wasn’t there. Now supposedly it is. We’ll see. I think Volson takes a huge leap. You don’t.

There is definitely that, but more than anything, imo, is the idea that an OT who never played OG is going to make that switch headed from college to pro and do it at a high level. I call horseshit on that. We've tried and failed to do that many times even before Zac. I hope we never do that again because it never works. If they want a OG, draft an OG. Carman's comfort level playing OT was apparent, as was his lack of comfort playing OG. No more tweeners...

[*SHRacerX*]

(04-28-2023, 12:34 AM)jj22 Wrote: Thoughts

Salivating at the idea of him rotating inside with Hubbard and having a 4 defensive end NASCAR package that looks like this:


Ossai-----Hubbard-----Muphy-------Hendrickson


He also will provide more rotation for the likes of Hendrickson and Hubbard to help those guys stay fresh.  I really dislike having any guys playing 98% of stats in the trenches.  

[kevin]

This all makes sense. Bengals took CB's first rounds last year. This year they get a top true DE of Size and Talent, then the fastest player in the draft in CB Turner and then a top Safety from Alabama. To any who ask where is the offense. Resigning Burrow, Chase, Higgins, maybe Boyd, maybe Mixon is the Offense. To resign the Offense, Bengals let Bell and Bates leave, but used 2 drafts in a row to restock Defense...This all makes sense.

Bengals keep their Super Bowl Offense and Bengals keep a Super Bowl Defense going.

Oh, Murphy is going to be here a few years at age 21, for those who think he is just a platoon player. Look past 2023 people. Long after Hendrickson is gone, this stud will be the Bengals D Line star. Certainly that is the long range plan in Round One Pick.

[CottonHill]

Murphy is exactly what I wanted. He’s more twitchy than Trey and Sam….that’s not me saying he’s better, just that he gets upfield faster. He will learn and refine his game with these guys and Lou. Plus it will be a changeup for offensive tackles when he rotates in

[Soonerpeace]

Here is every rep of a 19 year old Myles Murphy against 2021's 6th overall pick Ickey Ekwonu. pic.twitter.com/MfPB7VoWEG

— mike (@bengals_sans) April 29, 2023

[Soonerpeace]

Geoff Hobson:
Aspiring architect Myles Murphy, who has designs on being the last brick in the Bengals' Super Bowl foundation, showed up comfortably at Paycor Stadium for Saturday's introductory news conference.
"I got into it because of stadiums," said Murphy of his architectural avocation. "That was the end goal. Be part of a stadium build."
But first, he's a major piece of the Bengals' touch-up project on defense as one of three defensive players taken in the first three rounds. The last time he was here was two weeks ago on a top 30 visit where the Bengals told him they loved him but they just didn't think he was going to be there at No. 28.
Thanks for coming, though.
But there he was, as impeccable as his resume in a 6-5, 268-pound three-piece suit. He moves easily and lightly among football. For one thing, despite his size, he's always been one of the fastest kids on his teams. He didn't run track in high school, but he ran the sprints at their practices. Even as recently as three weeks ago at his pro day when he bulged eyeballs even though he sprinted through a meandering 40-yard dash.

"My first 15 yards I had my eyes closed. When I opened my eyes, I almost stepped on a cone," Murphy recalled.
The scouts wanted him to run it again, where they thought if he ran straight he could hit 4.47. But Clemson head coach Dabo Swinney trotted up to him and told him to forget it. The stopwatches were still showing anywhere from 4.49 to 4.52 and 4.53 seconds.
"That's a good number," Murphy said.
Another reason he moves so easily around the game is he grew up with it. His father Willard Murphy was recruited out of tiny Hamilton, Ga., and played outside linebacker at Tennessee-Chattanooga before the Birmingham Stallions of the old USFL drafted him in the 10th round.
He already had two surgeries on his knee and one on his shoulder, so when he pulled his hamstring just before the last cuts, he went back to get his degree in business management.

"Time to move on with life," said Willard Murphy, a State Farm insurance agent who along with wife Breyone did exactly that raising two football players in Marietta, Ga., with Falcons' season tickets for the past 15 years. Myles says he took bits and pieces from what Willard relayed to him and that's how constructed his frame of reference.
Maxwell, 25, played defensive tackle and defensive end at Division III at Worcester Poly while getting his degree in electrical engineering. He didn't get his younger brother's height, but he got the passion.
"I still wanted to play. I enjoyed playing and I got to meet a lot of people," said Maxwell, who get very little financial aid playing the game he loved.

Myles Murphy: "I'm Going From A Winning Team To Another Winning Team" | Draft Dey 2023
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Myles Murphy never knew where he got his height until he met his mother's Uncle Joe. He went 6-7 and then he knew.

He comes from a tight family and community. When the Bengals sent a charter plane for the trip to Cincinnati, it was Breyone, Willard, Maxwell and Lauren Jackson, his girlfriend he has known since seventh grade at Lovinggood Middle School.
They started dating as sophomores at Hillgrove High School and when they were watching the second round Friday night, his new team picked Michigan cornerback DJ Turner. When Murphy went to nudge her with his elbow he ended up accidently drilling Jackson in the head as he flew upstairs.
It sounds crazy, but Murphy and Turner have known each other for years One of Breyone Murphy's first and best friends was Turner's father, JuanDrago, when they were growing up in Decatur, Ga.
"We were friends in kindergarten and have been friends since," said Breyone, a realtor who also works in State Farm operations.
"I represented him in high school on the Homecoming Court. He was a football player and he didn't have a girlfriend at the time, so DJ's grandad escorted me to the field. We had a group of four friends and we went off to college, but we introduced them to our spouses and stayed friends. We'd get together and have birthday parties with our kids."

The Turners settled in nearby Suwanee, Ga., close enough that DJ and Myles sometimes crossed paths during football camps. A picture surfaced Friday night with DJ standing in front of the towering Myles at a long-ago birthday party .
"Hard to believe," Breyone Murphy said. "The families know each other. I was trying to call Drago and it turned out we were trying to call each other."
The stuff of movies and Myles Murphy admits he's a film junkie. Enough that Jackson tells him from time to time that he's watching his iPad too much.
It probably goes back to his decision to give up baseball for football when he was a sophomore. A big decision since he could throw a baseball 90 miles per hour.
"I outgrew my mechanics," Murphy said. "I couldn't control my two-seam fastball."

But he could control the analysis and the designer was immediately drawn to the strategy.
"I always thought with a passer, it's a mind game as the game progresses," Murphy said. "Setting up one thing to set up something else. It plays a big part in the way I watch film. Being able to see the backfield sets. What are their tendencies? What is the offensive tackle's tendencies? Is it a vertical overset? Any sign that gives something away."

Breaking down Myles Murphy's college highlights 2023 NFL Draft
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Trey Hendrickson and Sam Hubbard, the two veteran edgers he's backing up, have texted and getting him set up in the different message groups. Quarterback Joe Burrow has checked in and Maxwell Murphy stopped to gaze at No. 9's locker.
"(Myles) has been beating me all the time with the Bengals," Maxwell said of their latest Madden matches. "I'd say he's been using them for the last couple of months. Ever since the draft stuff started."

Myles Murphy smiled.
"Great team to play with. High-powered offense. High-powered defense," he said. "They've got the guys to get the job done. Playing them in Madden, it's a coincidence I'm an added piece on them. It's easy (to use) when you've got Joe Burrow and Ja'Marr Chase and Tee Higgins. I'm going to use them a little more since I'm on the team now."
Myles Murphy insists if he's got the Clemson playbook down, he thinks he won't have much of a hard time with this one. He dropped. He blitzed. He played inside. There were packages called everything from "LeBron," to "Cyclone."
"We would do literally every type of front, 4-3, 3-4, odd where I'd be in a three," Murphy said. "I remember my sophomore year against Louisville, we called it a 'LeBron' front. I'd be in a zero. I was all over the place, really from a zero all the way out to a nine, so really just rushing all those gaps."
Don't look for the Bengals to use him in all those places. He figures he played about a quarter of the time inside. But there is clearly one package that is his favorite. And it doesn't need a name.
'"Any package where I'm on the edge and its third down," said Murphy of his grand design

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(04-29-2023, 09:47 AM)SHRacerX Wrote: Salivating at the idea of him rotating inside with Hubbard and having a 4 defensive end NASCAR package that looks like this:


Ossai-----Hubbard-----Muphy-------Hendrickson


He also will provide more rotation for the likes of Hendrickson and Hubbard to help those guys stay fresh.  I really dislike having any guys playing 98% of stats in the trenches.  

Yeah, that is "the terror package" I was talkin' about...

[*ochocincos*]

(04-28-2023, 05:09 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Basham was gonna be battling with Gunter to make the team behind Trey, Sam, Ossai, and Sample. That's why his dead cap is zero & he makes less than Evans. 

I'd love for him to stick on the PS, though. 

Hendrickson & Ossai are the pass rush guys. Hubbard & Sample can sime, but excel setting the edge and come inside on passing downs. Murphy is an athletic freak (speed, strength, size) who can do both, and with some refinement, do both.  He has some alignment versatility. He has a good motor. And was a team captain. 

This is what is surprising though.
They don't normally carry more than 5 DEs.
Hubbard, Hendrickson, Ossai, and Sample I thought were locks.
Basham competes with Gunter for the last DE spot.
Now I can see neither of them making it, unless Bengals choose to go 6 DEs and 4 DTs.

[TheFan]

(04-28-2023, 08:33 PM)THE PISTONS Wrote: Hendrickson is largely a 1 trick pony in pass rushing. He's not good versus the run.

He's not the best against the tun but I think some are underestimating or forgetting about the broken wrist which effected his play. 

[TheFan]

(04-29-2023, 09:53 PM)ochocincos Wrote: This is what is surprising though.
They don't normally carry more than 5 DEs.
Hubbard, Hendrickson, Ossai, and Sample I thought were locks.
Basham competes with Gunter for the last DE spot.
Now I can see neither of them making it, unless Bengals choose to go 6 DEs and 4 DTs.

I think they tossed both Ossai and Sample inside at times last year. Maybe they think a few can double ad DE/DT a bit more vs being solely one or the other? 

[sandwedge]

(04-29-2023, 03:33 PM)Soonerpeace Wrote:

Here is every rep of a 19 year old Myles Murphy against 2021's 6th overall pick Ickey Ekwonu. pic.twitter.com/MfPB7VoWEG

— mike (@bengals_sans) April 29, 2023

He definitely looks like a freshman, but you can see the motor always going full speed!

[TheFan]

(04-29-2023, 11:31 PM)sandwedge Wrote: He definitely looks like a freshman, but you can see the motor always going full speed!

Looked like 3 good wins and what should have been a sack but didn't finish. Most of the pass plays he seemed to do okay but got washed out a bit on the runs. 

[*SHRacerX*]

(04-29-2023, 05:43 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: Yeah, that is "the terror package" I was talkin' about...

Sample can also rotate inside.  I don't think it benefits Hubbard to play 80% of snaps.  Ditto Hendrickson.  Rotation of fresh legs.  

[Soonerpeace]

Found this: According to Arif Hasan's NFL Draft Industry Consensus Big Board, which accounts for 70 different big boards from around draft media, Murphy was ranked as the 15th-best player in the entire class. As the 28th overall pick, he was the highest-ranked prospect on the consensus board, which made him the biggest steal of the first round according to the consensus.