Posts: 10,869
Threads: 1,345
Reputation:
39973
Joined: May 2015
Location: Robbing Grandmas Of The Covid Vaccine In Northern Kentucky-Greater Cincinnati
(05-03-2023, 01:48 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: That's great news, but I hope he never sees the field this season. Because if he doesn't, it means Joe Burrow is likely healthy and the Bengals are probably having a great season.
Everyone talks about filling in for Burrow if he misses time, but I'm looking at it as a positive just because it would give Burrow a better option to practice with and throw around the ball.
I know they wouldn't be competing but you always want quality players practicing around you to push you and help improve.
Posts: 17,290
Threads: 239
Reputation:
137105
Joined: Oct 2015
(05-03-2023, 03:38 PM)ElkValleyBengal Wrote: If you're going by stats alone, you can't determine a QB's accuracy. Drops, throwing downfield a significant amount, throwing it away to prevent a sack, etc. can undermine the completion percentage. I can't say one way or the other since I've not seen him enough.
He's heading into his age 32 season and he's never reached 60.0% (which is still well below league average) in a year before. You can absolutely determine with stats alone at that point. He stinks.
____________________________________________________________
Posts: 550
Threads: 10
Reputation:
2693
Joined: May 2015
(05-03-2023, 03:47 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: He's heading into his age 32 season and he's never reached 60.0% (which is still well below league average) in a year before. You can absolutely determine with stats alone at that point. He stinks.
I will concede that things tend to even out over time. But I can live with that percentage if it's the result of routinely throwing down field on 3rd and 15 instead of dumping it off to the RB for 5 yards, field goal positioning aside of course.
Posts: 550
Threads: 10
Reputation:
2693
Joined: May 2015
Or maybe on the negative side, he's missing completions because he's late releasing the ball, or not seeing defenders lurking to pounce. Just hard to say without watching.
Posts: 26,205
Threads: 656
Reputation:
247659
Joined: May 2015
Location: Jackson, OH
(05-03-2023, 03:38 PM)BFritz21 Wrote: Everyone talks about filling in for Burrow if he misses time, but I'm looking at it as a positive just because it would give Burrow a better option to practice with and throw around the ball.
I know they wouldn't be competing but you always want quality players practicing around you to push you and help improve.
It likely also is a benefit to the rest of the second team players to be getting reps with a better QB.
Volson is meh, but I like him, and he has far exceeded my expectations
-Frank Booth 1/9/23
Posts: 8,673
Threads: 301
Reputation:
73556
Joined: Jan 2016
Location: Kettering, Ohio
I hope Trevor Siemian gets a lot of playing time this season…
…in the fourth quarter when the Bengals have the game won.
Posts: 10,869
Threads: 1,345
Reputation:
39973
Joined: May 2015
Location: Robbing Grandmas Of The Covid Vaccine In Northern Kentucky-Greater Cincinnati
(05-03-2023, 04:40 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: It likely also is a benefit to the rest of the second team players to be getting reps with a better QB.
Good point because they don't get any practice catching balls that are off-target and under-thrown or thrown with no zip.
It also helps the defense- both the starters and the backups- for the exact same reason.
Posts: 36,529
Threads: 49
Reputation:
236350
Joined: May 2015
Location: Star Valley, Wyoming
(05-03-2023, 03:38 PM)ElkValleyBengal Wrote: If you're going by stats alone, you can't determine a QB's accuracy. Drops, throwing downfield a significant amount, throwing it away to prevent a sack, etc. can undermine the completion percentage. I can't say one way or the other since I've not seen him enough.
The Receiver has to catch the ball as well lol
For example, Burrow is the most accurate QB I have ever seen but if his guys are droppin' ballz it don't matter.
Posts: 36,529
Threads: 49
Reputation:
236350
Joined: May 2015
Location: Star Valley, Wyoming
(05-03-2023, 03:47 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: He's heading into his age 32 season and he's never reached 60.0% (which is still well below league average) in a year before. You can absolutely determine with stats alone at that point. He stinks.
And you aren't going to get better at backup QB and if Siemian stinks, Allen is God awful stench... 
Posts: 2,980
Threads: 50
Reputation:
10556
Joined: May 2015
Location: Anderson, SC
(05-03-2023, 01:55 PM)M.W. Wrote: A much better option than Brandon. Can't believe the 49ers signed him!
They need camp bodies
Posts: 76
Threads: 0
Reputation:
597
Joined: Mar 2022
I am cool with this. Allen was totally overmatched and seemed inept. His career is likely over after the 49ers camp. Seems like a good guy, but terrible QB.
Posts: 6,110
Threads: 878
Reputation:
15416
Joined: May 2015
(05-03-2023, 01:37 PM)Memphis_Bengal Wrote: Better than Allen!
https://www.cincyjungle.com/2023/5/3/23709795/trevor-siemian-bengals-news-brandon-allen-49ers-nfl-news-rumors
Allen signed with 49ers. So Allen is out now anyway. So Siemian in to compete for back up role.
But please block and protect for Joe Burrow, because this team don't win without him. I never saw Allen start and win here, and hopefully Siemian won't be called on to.
1968 Bengal Fan
Posts: 11,577
Threads: 19
Reputation:
79828
Joined: May 2015
Location: Where Mr. Kotter was before returning
(05-03-2023, 01:55 PM)M.W. Wrote: A much better option than Brandon. Can't believe the 49ers signed him!
The 49ers system is QB proof, and as of now he'd be 3rd string.
Poo Dey
Posts: 16,227
Threads: 256
Reputation:
186078
Joined: May 2015
Location: Ohio
If I had to choose between Allen and Siemian I'd choose Siemian without hesitation. That's all
Posts: 17,290
Threads: 239
Reputation:
137105
Joined: Oct 2015
(05-03-2023, 06:21 PM)Nate (formerly eliminate08) Wrote: And you aren't going to get better at backup QB and if Siemian stinks, Allen is God awful stench...
![[Image: 6a45d6e21a670a3b7cced7d430ef208c.jpg]](https://www.meme-arsenal.com/memes/6a45d6e21a670a3b7cced7d430ef208c.jpg)
____________________________________________________________
Posts: 3,152
Threads: 258
Reputation:
5159
Joined: May 2015
Glad for the upgrade at backup QB. Hope he has a good season with the Bengals no matter what happens.
Who Dey! 
Posts: 46
Threads: 0
Reputation:
408
Joined: Apr 2020
It's literally like this...
"We signed a quarterback as Brandon Allen's replacement...."
"Great move! Who'd we sign?"
Posts: 38,919
Threads: 922
Reputation:
132491
Joined: May 2015
(05-03-2023, 02:58 PM)TheLeonardLeap Wrote: Hope it's for vet minimum, because I don't want him to make the roster cut. He's simply not accurate enough to even be an NFL QB, he's never even reached 60.0% completion in a year.. Don't even trust him to start a couple games, so I sure hope he's an absolutely amazing clipboard holder and is just really good studying film to help Burrow prepare for games.
I fear you're comparing TS to other starting QBs in the NFL. Doubt he'll start here.
Posts: 1,183
Threads: 2
Reputation:
7376
Joined: Sep 2015
Glad to see we upgraded, even if ever so slightly. To me, the REAL question is “WTF was San Fran thinking?!” signing Allen. The way they go through QBs there, the guy has a legitimate chance to play if he makes their roster. ?
Posts: 4,416
Threads: 44
Reputation:
13853
Joined: May 2015
This is good because of the experience he has as a starter.
With regards to his stats, if he does have to play then he will be better just because he has Chase, Higgins, Boyd etc to throw to. I bet he’s never had those kind of weapons before.
1
|
![[Image: 7LNf.gif]](https://i.gifer.com/7LNf.gif)
![[Image: CavkUzl.gif]](https://i.imgur.com/CavkUzl.gif)
![[Image: 9c9oza.jpg]](https://i.imgflip.com/9c9oza.jpg)
![[Image: 4CV0TeR.png]](https://i.imgur.com/4CV0TeR.png)
