Posts: 1,031
Threads: 20
Joined: May 2015
OK, whether or not we want to admit this, the Steelers have a potent offense, that can score quickly. They do it mostly through passing.
Now normally, I wouldn't adjust much, however with Jones injured, Hall banged up and a lot of young inexperienced DBs should we go more to a coverage approach and try to force Pitt into running the ball or taking underneath? This way when they get into the RZ, the field now becomes a factor, and then we can stop the run and the underneath. Sure that would be a lot of FGs, but it is easier to rebound if the opponent kicks 3 FGs than if they score TDs quickly.
I am all for scoring as much as possible, so the offense will be important in getting points, but Hill will be very important in controlling the clock so as not to keep giving Pitt more and more chances at getting their pass game going.
Posts: 4,199
Threads: 21
Reputation:
26083
Joined: Jun 2015
(12-09-2015, 09:15 PM)Sovereign Nation Wrote: OK, whether or not we want to admit this, the Steelers have a potent offense, that can score quickly. They do it mostly through passing.
Now normally, I wouldn't adjust much, however with Jones injured, Hall banged up and a lot of young inexperienced DBs should we go more to a coverage approach and try to force Pitt into running the ball or taking underneath? This way when they get into the RZ, the field now becomes a factor, and then we can stop the run and the underneath. Sure that would be a lot of FGs, but it is easier to rebound if the opponent kicks 3 FGs than if they score TDs quickly.
I am all for scoring as much as possible, so the offense will be important in getting points, but Hill will be very important in controlling the clock so as not to keep giving Pitt more and more chances at getting their pass game going.
Brown caught 1 td in the RZ in the first game and 2 inside the RZ just last week. If the front four can get home they'll be fine. I wouldn't give them anything.
Posts: 25,755
Threads: 647
Reputation:
241748
Joined: May 2015
Location: Jackson, OH
I don't know about "selling out" to stop the pass. First of all, you have to stop the run, and put them into pass 1st mode. Then, you have to get to Ben, rough him up a bit. Because if you don't, those receivers WILL eventually get open. Our secondary is a strength of our defense, but the pass rush has to make their job a little easier.
Volson is meh, but I like him, and he has far exceeded my expectations
-Frank Booth 1/9/23
Posts: 1,356
Threads: 23
Reputation:
3778
Joined: May 2015
(12-09-2015, 09:34 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I don't know about "selling out" to stop the pass. First of all, you have to stop the run, and put them into pass 1st mode. Then, you have to get to Ben, rough him up a bit. Because if you don't, those receivers WILL eventually get open. Our secondary is a strength of our defense, but the pass rush has to make their job a little easier.
Yes, before the injury bug hit the secondary!!! Now, it is a liability.
Posts: 25,755
Threads: 647
Reputation:
241748
Joined: May 2015
Location: Jackson, OH
(12-09-2015, 10:43 PM)Derrick Wrote: Yes, before the injury bug hit the secondary!!! Now, it is a liability.
Well, after taking that into consideration, I say cheap shot at every opportunity.
Why not? It's worked for the Steelers for generations..
Volson is meh, but I like him, and he has far exceeded my expectations
-Frank Booth 1/9/23
Posts: 13,473
Threads: 504
Joined: May 2015
Location: South Florida
When you sell out to stop anything you usually get burned. Just play our defense and limit them. We did it before with the exception of the first drive.
Posts: 1,031
Threads: 20
Joined: May 2015
(12-10-2015, 12:58 AM)StLucieBengal Wrote: When you sell out to stop anything you usually get burned. Just play our defense and limit them. We did it before with the exception of the first drive.
As been mentioned though, before we had Jones and Hall, as well as Dennard as a backup.
Now we have Dre (who flashes and has good to great games sometimes, but is inconsistent), possibly a banged up Hall, and Dennard is out for the year. We have a lot of inexperienced guys out there.
I am talking more about pulling your safeties back some more, and not letting anyone get behind them.
I would maybe pull a LBer and go extra Safety or CB. The Pass Rush will be key here, we will have to get to Ben, and MAKE him throw quick, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't be able to throw a 40 yrd pass, no matter how good the pass rush is. So I think we should keep at least one safety back to make sure that Ben doesn't have that long ball as an option. If he does get a guy open, then that safety will have to make the play to prevent it from going for a TD.
Posts: 3,965
Threads: 55
Reputation:
8642
Joined: May 2015
Im ok with our front seven holding down the run, but we cant get foolish blitzing DB's.
Posts: 4,199
Threads: 21
Reputation:
26083
Joined: Jun 2015
Wind gusts up to 40 mph. Not sure if this is good news or bad.
Posts: 1,288
Threads: 4
Reputation:
12274
Joined: Nov 2015
Location: Florida
(12-10-2015, 01:16 PM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: Wind gusts up to 40 mph. Not sure if this is good news or bad.
I think that's good, because Pitt's game is predicated on deep passes. That might make it easier for what's left of our secondary to keep Brown and Co in check.
Posts: 782
Threads: 36
Reputation:
4593
Joined: Sep 2015
(12-10-2015, 12:30 PM)Sovereign Nation Wrote: As been mentioned though, before we had Jones and Hall, as well as Dennard as a backup.
Now we have Dre (who flashes and has good to great games sometimes, but is inconsistent), possibly a banged up Hall, and Dennard is out for the year. We have a lot of inexperienced guys out there.
I am talking more about pulling your safeties back some more, and not letting anyone get behind them.
I would maybe pull a LBer and go extra Safety or CB. The Pass Rush will be key here, we will have to get to Ben, and MAKE him throw quick, but that doesn't mean he wouldn't be able to throw a 40 yrd pass, no matter how good the pass rush is. So I think we should keep at least one safety back to make sure that Ben doesn't have that long ball as an option. If he does get a guy open, then that safety will have to make the play to prevent it from going for a TD.
that's the key for me...to be honest both Reggie and Iloka (really need him to play) are normally pretty disciplined at staying over the top of receivers but i think thats really got to be the priority in this game with our CB situation
If Bryant gets 1 on 1 with Hall on the outside at any moment i think Big Ben goes deep so we better pray we have deep safety cover. Hall is super smart and competitive but he simply has not got the wheels anymore.
Normally i veer towards more aggressive approach and would love to blitz more but i think whilst it may be frustrating we're going to have to try and make them go the length of the field and be more prevent.
I'm hoping reggie/iloka come up with an deep interception at some point
Posts: 2,696
Threads: 10
Reputation:
8480
Joined: May 2015
We need Geno to dominate another game. If he does the rest will fall into place.
Posts: 16,713
Threads: 417
Reputation:
95685
Joined: May 2015
(12-10-2015, 01:37 PM)sonofstat Wrote: that's the key for me...to be honest both Reggie and Iloka (really need him to play) are normally pretty disciplined at staying over the top of receivers but i think thats really got to be the priority in this game with our CB situation
If Bryant gets 1 on 1 with Hall on the outside at any moment i think Big Ben goes deep so we better pray we have deep safety cover. Hall is super smart and competitive but he simply has not got the wheels anymore.
Normally i veer towards more aggressive approach and would love to blitz more but i think whilst it may be frustrating we're going to have to try and make them go the length of the field and be more prevent.
I'm hoping reggie/iloka come up with an deep interception at some point
I'm looking for Reggie and George to knock the snot out of their receivers to the point of giving them alligator arms. Bottom line, Hill and Bernard are going to have to have huge days to keep the rapist off the field.
Posts: 3,965
Threads: 55
Reputation:
8642
Joined: May 2015
(12-10-2015, 01:16 PM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: Wind gusts up to 40 mph. Not sure if this is good news or bad.
Long balls will sail..
Posts: 11,767
Threads: 706
Reputation:
54790
Joined: Jun 2015
(12-10-2015, 01:16 PM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: Wind gusts up to 40 mph. Not sure if this is good news or bad.
If windy, I think that favors the Bengals. The Steelers passing game is more long ball oriented than the Bengals so if Ben has to throw into a 40 MPH wind for 2 quarters, I think we gain a slight advantage. We also gain it a little with home field advantage against their DL (quiet) and our DL benefits versus game one as their OL has to focus on the ball being snapped versus a vocal count.
I am so ready for 2024 season. I love pro football and hoping for a great Bengals year. Regardless, always remember it is a game and entertainment.
Posts: 5,606
Threads: 36
Reputation:
36341
Joined: May 2015
Location: Vancouver, WA
(12-10-2015, 01:16 PM)StoneTheCrow Wrote: Wind gusts up to 40 mph. Not sure if this is good news or bad.
You can always trust an dishonest man to be dishonest. Honestly, it's the honest ones you have to look out for.
"Winning makes believers of us all"-Paul Brown
Posts: 726
Threads: 7
Reputation:
3368
Joined: May 2015
(12-09-2015, 09:34 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: put them into pass 1st mode.
They already are. Stop the pass as any means necessary
Posts: 10,718
Threads: 63
Reputation:
57608
Joined: May 2015
I'm worried about their passing game, but we shouldn't play to weaknesses if that's what you're suggesting. Make changes? Sure, you have to when your secondary starts to get injured.
Posts: 16,400
Threads: 151
Reputation:
61592
Joined: May 2015
(12-10-2015, 05:24 PM)Bengal Dude Wrote:
this means its bad
Posts: 3,818
Threads: 33
Reputation:
8753
Joined: May 2015
Steelers rush offense isn't terrible either. Deangelo Williams is on fire. They will get their yards regardless. It's the ability to hold them to field goal's instead of touchdowns that will be the difference.
If the Bengals hold the Steelers offense to under 400 yards total, I will look at that as a positive.
|