2024 Bengals Roster Thread: Offseason Edition

[Isaac Curtis: The Real #85]

(01-09-2024, 05:58 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: I didn’t even realize that with Hudson. I was thinking he was a lock to be back as a RFA. Even the Bengals list him on their roster as having 4 years of experience. That stinks for us.

I am not a contract/CBA wiz, so perhaps jow they list experience on certain sites does not jibe with the FA tlrules, but I though 6 weeks on an active roster (or IR from active) got you a year. And RFA is 3 years. ERFA is 2 or fewer. 

Spitrac has him as a RFA, but I think that is wrong. Maybe one year some of those games were PS calls & they don't count? I thought they did. 

OTC has Hudson, Irwin, and Wilcox as UFA's, but I think they are wrong on Irwin & Wilcox. 

We will find out soon enough. But we may have to pay above MIN to keep Hudson. And I would do so. 

[Isaac Curtis: The Real #85]

We have apparently re-signed OT Cochran to a 1 year contract extension.

https://www.bengals.com/news/bengals-roster-moves-devin-cochran-re-signed-one-year-2024-season

IDK if it is future's or a regular. No mention of it being so in the release. I cannot believe he is likely to make the 53, but it is at least a camp body. He coukd beat out Carman or Smith, I guess. Save a little $$$.

[Soonerpeace]

(01-09-2024, 08:30 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: I like both Jones and Iosivas, but I do not think either is ready to start on a SB level team. 

As for Boyd, I expect he won't be here. So that means we will have to go get a WR on day 2, or prior in FA. If Boyd is back, we can take WR off the board for draft purposes. 

I would agree to that

[Forever Spinning Vinyl]

(01-09-2024, 08:40 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: We have apparently re-signed OT Cochran to a 1 year contract extension.

https://www.bengals.com/news/bengals-roster-moves-devin-cochran-re-signed-one-year-2024-season

IDK if it is future's or a regular. No mention of it being so in the release. I cannot believe he is likely to make the 53, but it is at least a camp body. He coukd beat out Carman or Smith, I guess. Save a little $$$.

Yep. This is the Bengals typical approach to the offseason and I don't disagree with it at all. Fill the roster with ''pros'' so there is no glaring need to reach. It's not ideal to rely on a guy with a futures contract but someone signed right now already has at least a 4 month head start on the playbook before any rookie has a chance to look at it. He's probably already physically ahead of every 4th or 5th rounder that will be available in April.

[*pally*]

(01-09-2024, 08:40 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: We have apparently re-signed OT Cochran to a 1 year contract extension.

https://www.bengals.com/news/bengals-roster-moves-devin-cochran-re-signed-one-year-2024-season

IDK if it is future's or a regular. No mention of it being so in the release. I cannot believe he is likely to make the 53, but it is at least a camp body. He coukd beat out Carman or Smith, I guess. Save a little $$$.

It was released as an extension so it’s a regular contract. They actually had some hope for him before he got hurt

[Essex Johnson]

(01-09-2024, 08:30 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: I like both Jones and Iosivas, but I do not think either is ready to start on a SB level team. 

As for Boyd, I expect he won't be here. So that means we will have to go get a WR on day 2, or prior in FA. If Boyd is back, we can take WR off the board for draft purposes. 

I would disagree on Jones, little doubt he was picked as heir to Boyd and feel with Irwin a veteran , they will feel confident don't need to look for WR to replace Boyd but maybe to replace Higgins 

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

Thanks for this Ike. Hope we grab a RT and a DT in Free Agency to free up the Draft a bit.

Eluemunor and Madubuike would be ideal IMO.

[Isaac Curtis: The Real #85]

(01-10-2024, 05:05 AM)Essex Johnson Wrote: I would disagree on Jones, little doubt he was picked as heir to Boyd and feel with Irwin a veteran , they will feel confident don't need to look for WR to replace Boyd but maybe to replace Higgins 

Jones got 44 offensive snaps this year, the lion's share vs Cleveland's backups. 

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but that seems awful risky for a SB contender. He is WAY unproven. 

I think we want to get more explosive at WR, and Jones does not necessarily bring that. He is speedy, but not explosive. If we were do go with Charlie in the slot to replace Boyd, I think we'd need a serious TE upgrade to compensate (Schultz, Sanders). 

I also would not discount the idea of moving Chase inside and getting another wide WR. It does not have to be another slot guy (Roman Wilson, Corley, MacMillan) to replace Boyd. If Polk or Legette is there Rd2, that is awful tempting. 

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(01-10-2024, 03:24 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Jones got 44 offensive snaps this year, the lion's share vs Cleveland's backups. 

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but that seems awful risky for a SB contender. He is WAY unproven. 

I think we want to get more explosive at WR, and Jones does not necessarily bring that. He is speedy, but not explosive. If we were do go with Charlie in the slot to replace Boyd, I think we'd need a serious TE upgrade to compensate (Schultz, Sanders). 

I also would not discount the idea of moving Chase inside and getting another wide WR. It does not have to be another slot guy (Roman Wilson, Corley, MacMillan) to replace Boyd. If Polk or Legette is there Rd2, that is awful tempting. 

Malachi Corley would be a nice grab. I agree, Chuck hasn't shown enough to be the Boyd heir apparent. I like him though, especially as a backup.

Same with Iosivas who could be great if he held onto the ball through contact better. Rome Odunze is still my 2nd favorite WR in this Draft who I like
to replace Higgins.

[Isaac Curtis: The Real #85]

Updated after Cochran signing.


A. Signed Players = 39

I. Offense = 15
QB (1): Burrow (IR)
RB (3): Mixon; C. Brown, Evans
WR (3): Chase; Iosivas, C. Jones
TE (0):
OT (3): O. Brown; Carman, D. Smith, Cochran (PS/IR)
OG (2):  Cappa, Volson
C (2): Karras, T. Hill

II. Defense = 22
DE (5): Hendrickson, Hubbard, C. Sample, Murphy, Ossai
NT/DT (5): BJ Hill; Carter, Tufele, Bell; Maxwell (PS/IR)
LB (3): Wilson, Pratt; Harper
CB (5): CTB, Hilton; Turner, Ivey (IR), J. Davis
S (4): Battle, D. Hill; Scott, Anderson (IR)

III. Specials = 2
PK (1): McPherson
P (1): Robbins
LS (0):
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II. Future's Contracts = 9 (cannot negotiate with other teams, don't count vs cap or roster limits till Spring). 

1. WR: Jackson 
2. WR: Lassiter II
3. WR: Pryor 
4. G/OT: Kirkland (IR)
5. C/G: Gilliam 
6. DE: Gunter 
7. DT: Davis
8. LB: Heyward
9. CB: George
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III.  Free Agents 

A. ERFA's = 2. (must stay if we make an offer) 
1. QB: Browning 
2. LS: Adomitis 

B.  RFA's = 2. (we can match).
1. WR: Irwin 
2. TE: Wilcox

OTC has them as UFA's, and Spotrac as RFA's. But I think each has only 3 accrued seasons (6+ games on active roster/IR). Irwin in '21, '22, and '23 (but not '19 or '20) and Wilcox in the same 3 years but not in '20 (PS guy). If I am wrong on this, let me know. 

C.  UFA's = 22 (16 roster/+6 Practice Squad)

A.  Offense
1. WR: Higgins 
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2. WR: Boyd 
3. RT: J. Williams
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4. TE: Hudson (Spotrac has RFA, wrongly, methinks)
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5. TE: D. Sample 
6. RB: T. Williams 
7. OT/G: Ford 
8. OG/C: Scharping
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9. QB: McCarron
10. TE: I. Smith
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11. WR: Morgan (PS) 
12. RB: Felton (PS) 
13. QB: Plitt (PS)

*Hudson has 6+ games played in 4 different NFL seasons. I don't see how he his a RFA.

B.  Defense
1. NT: Reader 
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2. CB: Awuzie 
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3. NT: Tupou
4. LB: Davis-Gaither 
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5. LB: Bailey 
6. LB: Bachie 
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7. LB: Johnston (PS)
8. CB: S. Jones (PS)
9. S: M. Thomas (PS)

[Bengalholic]

(01-10-2024, 03:24 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: Jones got 44 offensive snaps this year, the lion's share vs Cleveland's backups. 

I don't necessarily disagree with you, but that seems awful risky for a SB contender. He is WAY unproven. 

I think we want to get more explosive at WR, and Jones does not necessarily bring that. He is speedy, but not explosive. If we were do go with Charlie in the slot to replace Boyd, I think we'd need a serious TE upgrade to compensate (Schultz, Sanders). 

I also would not discount the idea of moving Chase inside and getting another wide WR. It does not have to be another slot guy (Roman Wilson, Corley, MacMillan) to replace Boyd. If Polk or Legette is there Rd2, that is awful tempting. 

Because the Bengals really don't like to pay much for TE's, which probably eliminates guys like Schultz, Fant and Henry as realistic possibilities...one guy I think could be of interest is Colby Parkinson from Seattle. He's a very capable run and pass blocker, and I think he could become more of a receiving option given the opportunity. He's only 25, good size at 6'7-251 and should be pretty affordable. He just feels like a guy they would go after.

[Isaac Curtis: The Real #85]

FWIW, final PFF and snap counts for the D.

DE: Hendrickson, 82.3, 744 Def, 5 ST
NT: Reader, 82.2, 535 Def, 51 ST
DT: BJ Hill, 67.7, 778 Def, 77 ST
DE: Hubbard, 61.9, 714 Def, 6 ST
LB: Wilson, 62.6, 1,070 Def, 78 ST
LB: Pratt, 63.3, 977 Def, 32 ST
CB1: Awuzie, 62.6, 722 Def, 56 ST
CB2: CTB, 64.5, 655 Def, 5 ST
CB3: Hilton, 77.4, 878 Def, 7 ST
SS: Battle, 82.5, 525 Def, 190 ST
FS: D. Hill, 51.6, 1,091 Def, 82 ST
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DE3: C. Sample, 61.6, 376 Def, 146 ST
DE4: Murphy, 56.2, 305 Def, 88 ST
DE5: Ossai, 68.4, 177 Def, 7 ST
DT2: Carter, 51.2, 500 Def, 76 ST
NT2: Tupou, 52.1, 287 Def, 34 ST
NT3/DT3: Tufele, 45.5, 96 Def, 8 ST
LB3: ADG, 58.7, 99 Def, 289 ST
LB4: Bailey, 60.8, 29 Def, 309 ST
LB5: Bachie, 55.5, 10 Def, 283 ST
LB6: Harper, 70.2, 1 Def, 94 ST
CB4: Turner, 51.5, 829 Def, 84 ST
CB5: Ivey, 86.8, 21 Def, 113 ST
CB6: J. Davis, 51.4, 53 Def, 198 ST
S3: Scott, 41.6, 571 Def 190 ST
S4: Anderson,NR, O Def, 123 ST

[*psychdoctor*]

(01-09-2024, 04:36 PM)Isaac Curtis: The Real #85 Wrote: FWIW, Final PFF for our guys. I do not have a subscription. Also included snaps.

QB: Burrow, 77.9, 602 Off
RB: Mixon, 71.1, 752 Off
WR1: Chase, 85.3, 890 Off
WR2: Higgins, 72.1, 573 Off, 1 ST
WR3: Boyd, 59.5, 824 Off, 1 ST
TE: I. Smith, 44.2, 330 Off
LT: O. Brown, 66.1, 1,059 Off, 71 ST
LG: Volson, 58.3, 1,088 Off, 72 ST
C: Karras, 67.4, 1,076 Off, 66 ST
RG: Cappa, 64.9, 1,067 Off
RT: J. Williams, 58.5, 1,088 Off, 72 ST
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QB2: Browning, 79.3, 469 Off
QB3: McCarron, 59.0, 17 Off
RB2: T. Williams, 58.9, 156 Off, 294 ST
RB3: C. Brown, 63.9, 93 Off, 160 ST
RB4: Evans, 51.9, 24 Off, 122 ST
WR4: Irwin, 57.0, 429 Off, 22 ST
WR5: Iosivas, 61.2, 266 Off, 217 ST
WR6: C. Jones, 65.8, 44 Off, 52 ST
TE2: D. Sample, 60.0, 497 Off, 199 ST
TE3: Hudson, 73.0, 276 Off, 31 ST
TE4: Wilcox, 46.7, 230 Off, 316 ST
OT3/G: Ford, 53.9, 79 Off, 72 ST
OG3/C: Scharping, 78.1, 13 Off, 72 ST
OT/OG: Carman, 56.6, 12 Off, 1 ST
C/G: T. Hill, no snaps
OT/OG: D. Smith, no snaps
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WR7: Jackson, 60.7, 5 Off, 38 ST
WR8: Morgan Jr., NR, 4 Off, 52 ST
WR9: Lassiter II, 58.4, 5 Off

Hudson is a keeper and pleasant surprise