Scouting the All-Star games (2024)

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Updated the OP with youtube links to all the 1 on 1 drills. I'll add Team drills later if I find them.

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Someone from the Shrine Bowl I learned more about today:

Qwan’tez Stiggers/CB/CFL

His is a unique story. He comes from a poor family and is 1 of 13 kids, He went to a small HS where he played multiple positions and got no National looks. He did get a Track Scholarship the Lane College In GA, but left school soon after his father passed away in a car accident.

He suffered serve depression until his "anti- Bobby Boucher" mom motivated him to play in the Fan Controlled League (sorta a real FF League). While there he impressed an Argonaut's coach who invited him for a "longshot" tryout.

Not only did Stiggers make the league, he won CFL Defensive Rookie of the Year and was selected to the All-Star team. The NFL made a special Rule to allow him to particpate in the Shirne Bowl; as this is his "graduation year" and he has made the most of it.

[NATI BENGALS]

(02-02-2024, 12:09 PM)SunsetBengal Wrote: I was just reading that Kentucky RB Ray Davis has been putting on an impressive show, including such things as laying out for a one-handed grab, pulling away for a 70 yard score, and juking defenders out of their shoes. At 5'8" 220# he's likely also able to stonewall a blitzer coming up the middle of the pocket.

I started digging in to the RBs a little bit after seeing that Frank Gore Junior win offensive player of the game in the shine bowl last night.

My first thoughts are damn this looks a solid as hell RB class.

Might not be a bad idea to grab two.

I assumed Evans would take over KR again and Trayveon would be moving on. But if the coaches trust Evans so little and we want to prepare for life after Mixon. This looks like a good class to remake the RB depth chart with two new guys behind Mixon and Brown.

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PK was talking with Paul Alexander about the offensive linemen at the Senior Bowl. Some observations from them

Christian Jones: Seems to have a thin base, perhaps was a former TE. VERY strong in the upper body and resets quickly

Kingsley: Athletic and "hand replacement". The best at resetting his hands once the defender knocks them away. Doesn't give up on hands and allow the defender into his body

Andrew Raym: Cerebral and quick. Will be a much better Center than a Guard

Christian Haynes: Alexander absolutely loves this kid.

Technique thought: Punch is not important in the pros and the quickest thing to get you cut is always ending on the ground; even if you "won"

[Whatever]

(02-02-2024, 09:20 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: I started digging in to the RBs a little bit after seeing that Frank Gore Junior win offensive player of the game in the shine bowl last night.

My first thoughts are damn this looks a solid as hell RB class.

Might not be a bad idea to grab two.

I assumed Evans would take over KR again and Trayveon would be moving on. But if the coaches trust Evans so little and we want to prepare for life after Mixon. This looks like a good class to remake the RB depth chart with two new guys behind Mixon and Brown.

It's a pretty deep RB class.  There's no 1st round studs, but a lot of guys that could at least split carries in 2-4.

[007BengalsFan]

(02-02-2024, 09:14 AM)Synric Wrote: Oklahoma OT Tyler Guyton every 1 on 1 rep from the Senior Bowl.

Every Tyler Guyton 1-on-1 from the Senior Bowl pic.twitter.com/pHNtmYhMsJ

— James Foster (@NoFlagsFilm) February 2, 2024

I counted 10 snaps with the defender getting to the QB 3 times.  Im not impressed with Guyton or any of the other offensive linemen for that matter.  Watching the other videos it looked like Rosengarten was probably the best in the drills but he still needs work.

[007BengalsFan]

(02-02-2024, 09:16 AM)Synric Wrote: Missouri DL Darius Robinson every 1 on 1 rep from the Senior Bowl.

Every Darius Robinson 1-on-1 from the Senior Bowl pic.twitter.com/CezVgXSsmk

— James Foster (@NoFlagsFilm) February 2, 2024

Now that guy looked impressive

[casear2727]

(02-02-2024, 11:34 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: I counted 10 snaps with the defender getting to the QB 3 times.  Im not impressed with Guyton or any of the other offensive linemen for that matter.  Watching the other videos it looked like Rosengarten was probably the best in the drills but he still needs work.

Lol, I've watched 3 separate reviews of the 3 day practices, every one of them said Guyton may have played his way into the 1st round.  He is not very experienced but he has incredible traits.  Powers Johnson may very well go in the 1st Round after his one day of practice and solidified the IOL1.

[casear2727]

(02-02-2024, 11:44 PM)007BengalsFan Wrote: Now that guy looked impressive

This kid has gotten a ton of love the past few days.   These are the review shows:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu-DBmCF4kQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nla6MbtRTaE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C0hMGhjPjg

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(02-03-2024, 02:16 AM)casear2727 Wrote: Lol, I've watched 3 separate reviews of the 3 day practices, every one of them said Guyton may have played his way into the 1st round.  He is not very experienced but he has incredible traits.  Powers Johnson may very well go in the 1st Round after his one day of practice and solidified the IOL1.

Guyton has a ton of talent but he did lose 3 three times. Twice because he ducked his head and once to a late inside spin (really nice move). Everyone loses on those drills though it's more important to use these drills to go back and find those wins and loses during games.

For Guyton ducking his head an issue all year at times so it wasn't a surprise what was a surprise was the violent independent hands. Advanced hand techniques for a 1 year starter.

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Senior Bowl Awards voted on by the players they practiced against.

National Team: QB Michael Penix, WR Malachi Corely, RB, Marshawn Lloyd, TE Theo Johnson, OL Taliese Fuaga, DL Michael Hall Jr., LB JD Bethrand, S Evan Williams (great name), CB Jarvis Brownlee, Specialist Tory Taylor.

American Team: QB, Spencer Rattler, WR Ladd McConkey, RB Michael Wiley, TE Jarrett Wiley, OL Christian Haynes, DL Braden Fiske, LB Nathaniel Watson, S Javon Bullard, CB Quinyon Mitchell, Specialist Will Reichard.

Overall Practice pPlayer of the Week: Mizzou DL Darius Robinson

[Essex Johnson]

(02-03-2024, 10:56 AM)Synric Wrote: Senior Bowl Awards voted on by the players they are practiced against.

National Team: QB Michael Penix, WR Malachi Corely, RB, Marshawn Lloyd, TE Theo Johnson, OL Taliese Fuaga, DL Michael Hall Jr., LB JD Bethrand, S Evan Williams (great name), CB Jarvis Brownlee, Specialist Tory Taylor.

American Team: QB, Spencer Rattler, WR Ladd McConkey, RB Michael Wiley, TE Jarrett Wiley, OL Christian Haynes, DL Braden Fiske, LB Nathaniel Watson, S Javon Bullard, CB Quinyon Mitchell, Specialist Will Reichard.

Overall Practice pPlayer of the Week: Mizzou DL Darius Robinson

Hoping Fuaga will still be there at 18, feel he is most ready to start on gameday, or Latham, hopefully one of them will be there at #18 and get our starting RT for next year and beyond

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(02-03-2024, 10:56 AM)Synric Wrote: Senior Bowl Awards voted on by the players they are practiced against.

National Team: QB Michael Penix, WR Malachi Corely, RB, Marshawn Lloyd, TE Theo Johnson, OL Taliese Fuaga, DL Michael Hall Jr., LB JD Bethrand, S Evan Williams (great name), CB Jarvis Brownlee, Specialist Tory Taylor.

American Team: QB, Spencer Rattler, WR Ladd McConkey, RB Michael Wiley, TE Jarrett Wiley, OL Christian Haynes, DL Braden Fiske, LB Nathaniel Watson, S Javon Bullard, CB Quinyon Mitchell, Specialist Will Reichard.

Overall Practice pPlayer of the Week: Mizzou DL Darius Robinson

In addition to these, some others I see getting a lot of love are:

Jackson Powers-Johnson/C- Many have him as most outstanding

Ricky Persall Jr/WR

Christian Jones/WR

[WhoDeyK]

(02-03-2024, 01:00 PM)bfine32 Wrote: In addition to these, some others I see getting a lot of love are:

Jackson Powers-Johnson/C- Many have him as most outstanding

Ricky Persall Jr/WR

Christian Jones/WR

Happy JPJ is getting the credit he deserves. He’s clearly the best C in the class and maybe the best guard. Hate that he’s now probably going in the first round and really hate that the Steelers are showing interest. I know RT is the bigger need but I would take JPJ over Guyton, Latham and Mims. I feel much better about him as a prospect than those 3. I think JPJs the 4th best O lineman in the class behind Alt, Olu and Fuaga and I would be happy to take him at 18.

[*Synric*]

So very late BREAKING NEWS! Lol. Braden Fiske is the first player in Senior Bowl history to switch teams for the game. He will be on the National Roster for game day #94 in the gold/crimson FSU helm.

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These QBs are making the game hard to watch/ evaluate O talent.

[NATI BENGALS]

I didn’t see Blake Fisher’s name on the shrine or senior bowl. Wonder why that is?

I haven’t got to watch anywhere close to all the OL. But so far he is probably my favorite RT. Tried to do a mock to see if I could get him in the 2nd on fanspeak and nope he never dropped.

I think the guy who got hurt as a freshman starter and was Wally pipped at LT by Joe Alt has just as much potential as anyone. And ND is an OL factory.

[WhoDeyK]

(02-03-2024, 07:05 PM)NATI BENGALS Wrote: I didn’t see Blake Fisher’s name on the shrine or senior bowl. Wonder why that is?

I haven’t got to watch anywhere close to all the OL. But so far he is probably my favorite RT. Tried to do a mock to see if I could get him in the 2nd on fanspeak and nope he never dropped.

I think the guy who got hurt as a freshman starter and was Wally pipped at LT by Joe Alt has just as much potential as anyone. And ND is an OL factory.

I'm a big fan of Fisher as well. He definitely seems to be getting overlooked but I think he'd be a great Mid round selection at RT.

[Clark W Griswold]

(02-03-2024, 08:27 PM)WhoDeyK Wrote: I'm a big fan of Fisher as well. He definitely seems to be getting overlooked but I think he'd be a great Mid round selection at RT.

Why am I not OK with drafting a RT named Fisher in the second round?

[Jpoore]

(02-02-2024, 10:59 AM)Synric Wrote: He's gonna drive off the power move and the rip off it but Sweat had a great team period day 3. He will be a popular mock choice for the Bengals but probabaly goes closer to early 2nd round.

#Texas IDL T'Vondre Sweat looking like one of those giants in the Royal Rumble here vs this duo double.

Tossing bodies and not moving off his spot. pic.twitter.com/xfgN3hUN9f

— Nick Baumgardner (@nickbaumgardner) February 1, 2024

Man I was originally in this frame of thought, but I just see sweat continuing to rise…. I think maybe a slight trade back to 24 or so? Draft him there? Just don’t see anyways he dosent go rd1 anymore.