Fire Bell or not ?

[Forever Spinning Vinyl]

(Yesterday, 03:28 PM)CJD Wrote: I gotta say, I'm shocked.

I thought Bell was going to be given another year since this one was littered with injuries to key players.

I'm glad he wasn't, because I don't think he is going to be the manager that leads us to our first playoff victory in over 30 years, but I'm surprised Krall agrees with me.

That's pretty much where I'm at. I've never posted in this thread because I've laid it out in just about every monthly thread since I've been here.

One thing that Krall said in his press conference about the lack of growth by the young platers made me instantly reflect on the cluelessness and lackadaisical play by Marte. I wonder how much of the crap play by him and the coddling by Bell contributed to Bell's dismissal. I'm sure that the strikeout counts by Benson and De La Cruz along with the slight regression by Steer contributed, also, but I was getting tired of the Reds being an advanced AAA team and "letting guys work it out" on the MLB level.

I also liked how Krall pointed out the base running mistakes were mostly due to Bell's philosophy. I still think that Krall sucks, but I did like a few of the things that he said, which is new.

[kevin]

Ask Not For Whom The Bell Tolls.  HE WAS FIRED

It will be interesting to see who Reds hire as Manager this off season.  I know one Hall Of Famer who has wanted to be Reds Manager.  Barry Larkin, and shortstops make good Managers. Catchers do, but so do shortstops.  Hall Of Fame Barry Larkin might be a good influence on the players.  He wanted the job when they gave it to Bell.  

So Bell is Officially Fired.  Hopefully more Wins with the next Manager.

Cooperstown Hall of Fame Barry Larkin really has wanted the managers job, and I don't see any reason why not to give him a chance.   If they pass over Larkin, I hope he gives up on the Reds and goes on to higher things with another team.  He was in the Front Office with Washington.  If Barry Larkin wants to manage, The Reds or some team should give the Hall of Famer his chance.  Barry knows Hitting, Defense, Base Running.  He would need a good Pitching Coach.   Johnny Bench would have made a good manager knowing hitting and pitchers as a catcher, but he didn't want  the job.   Barry Larkin does want the job.  If Reds pass him over a second time, then Larkin needs to give up on Cincinnati, but is it really this hard for a great black player to get a managers job. 

[samhain]

If Francona is in good health, he's immediately at the top of the list, and it's not close. He's mentioned wanting to return to managing before. This talent crop is very likely to be around for under 5 years. Can Terry stay healthy for five years, right the ship, then hand the job off to a readymade assistant/heir? Idk, but if the answer is a yes or even a strong maybe, then he's the guy.

I'd be good with Skip, but I think we'll have a lot of competition for his services.

Ross would be acceptable to me.

I'd give Larkin a shot, but it doesn't feel right. Barry is great, but I question his bona fides as a clubhouse stabilizer. I've never really forgiven Larkin and Griffey for running McKeon out of town. Again, 11 is a legend, but he had a bad reputation for being pretty high maintenance as a player. To me, this is a recipe for yet another player's manager.