The Slot is Dead

[Bengalbug]

(10-21-2024, 05:48 PM)coachmcneil71 Wrote: You can't see the forest for the dang trees can you. Chaos ruled August and early September. JB was throwing the ball to the guys that A) he was getting significant reps with and B) the guys that he trusted from the second tier group of pass catchers. Hence, Yoshi was scoring our tuds. Who seems to be scoring them now that everyone is up to speed and practicing?

This team has dropped two heartbreakers to the two best teams in the AFC; KC and Balt. Both games that they were in and could've easily won. They've had a couple of stinkers in the middle, but are coming off of a division win. 

The sky isn't falling! Complaining after a division win is so atypical Bengal fan! 

The goal isn’t a division win, it’s a Super Bowl. Talk about seeing the forest through the trees….

[coachmcneil71]

(10-21-2024, 05:54 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: The goal isn’t a division win, it’s a Super Bowl.  Talk about seeing the forest through the trees….

What's the easiest path to the SB? Jesus H! Win your division and win games within the conference. Ffs! 

[kalibengal]

(06-21-2024, 01:53 PM)WeezyBengal Wrote: I think the Bengals are going to obliterate and innovate on what the "slot receiver" is this year.

I don't think they are going to have one dedicated "slot receiver". They will mix and match personnel. You will see Chase, Geiseki, Yoshi, Chase Brown, Burton, and even maybe Higgins all line up in that slot position.

I think this will be an innovation that many other teams in the NFL start copying as teams continue to try and take WRs out of the game with cover 2 and cloud coverage.

I'm excited about the possibilities. The Bengals finally have the personnel to dictate the concept.

Same with TE, they dont seem to care

[Bengalbug]

(10-21-2024, 05:56 PM)coachmcneil71 Wrote: What's the easiest path to the SB? Jesus H! Win your division and win games within the conference. Ffs! 

Beating the browns and the giants is good. If they played a good team the last two weeks, they might be 1-1 or even 0-2.

[ERIC1]

(10-21-2024, 02:07 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: all yoshi is is an upgrade to Irwin. Yoshi is a #4 receiver. Problem is there is a lack of qualified players to fill the 3rd option behind Tee and Chase. It's certainly not Gesicki, 

wonders if Yoshi could improve if they gave him more opportunity...and consistency..he seems to have the physical talents

[Frank Booth]

(10-21-2024, 06:41 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: wonders if Yoshi could improve if they gave him more opportunity...and consistency..he seems to have the physical talents

Lmao you go ahead and you think that

6th rounder btw

[coachmcneil71]

(10-21-2024, 06:15 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: Beating the browns and the giants is good.  If they played a good team the last two weeks, they might be 1-1 or even 0-2.

Beating the Browns is great! Beating them in C-Land is even better. They've been whipping our asses pretty regular since JBs arrival. You gotta savor an in state and division win, not ***** about it. 

[Nicomo Cosca]

(10-21-2024, 06:41 PM)ERIC1 Wrote: wonders if Yoshi could improve if they gave him more opportunity...and consistency..he seems to have the physical talents

He’s had all the opportunities in the world. Especially the first couple weeks when Tee was out. The red zone TD’s were nice, but a WR2/3 need to bring more between the 20’s.

[Bengalbug]

(10-21-2024, 06:46 PM)coachmcneil71 Wrote: Beating the Browns is great! Beating them in C-Land is even better. They've been whipping our asses pretty regular since JBs arrival. You gotta savor an in state and division win, not ***** about it. 

I literally said it is good. You can also observe that there is a need at the same time.

[pulses]

(10-21-2024, 06:42 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: Lmao you go ahead and you think that

6th rounder btw

Tom Brady was a 6th rounder FYI. Where they get drafted doesn't mean shit.

[pulses]

(10-21-2024, 06:47 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: He’s had all the opportunities in the world. Especially the first couple weeks when Tee was out. The red zone TD’s were nice, but a WR2/3 need to bring more between the 20’s.

They definitely need to use a high pick on a WR next year.

[Nicomo Cosca]

(10-21-2024, 07:01 PM)pulses Wrote: They definitely need to use a high pick on a WR next year.

Or better yet, just sign Tee.

But yeah, if they don’t there’s no choice but to.

[Frank Booth]

(10-21-2024, 06:59 PM)pulses Wrote: Tom Brady was a 6th rounder FYI. Where they get drafted doesn't mean shit.

Stop

[Frank Booth]

(10-21-2024, 07:05 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: Or better yet, just sign Tee.

But yeah, if they don’t there’s no choice but to.

Signing Tee is really gonna handicap everything else. The front office really screwed themselves with these awful drafts

[Nicomo Cosca]

(10-21-2024, 07:06 PM)Frank Booth Wrote: Signing Tee is really gonna handicap everything else. The front office really screwed themselves with these awful drafts

They really don’t have anyone else to pay besides the 2 WR’s.

[Bengalbug]

(10-21-2024, 06:59 PM)pulses Wrote: Tom Brady was a 6th rounder FYI. Where they get drafted doesn't mean shit.

LOL. It does matter. Just go look at success rate by round. The later in the draft, the lower chance it materializes.

Other 6th round QBs. This list is not exhaustive.

Josh Booty, Josh Heupel, J.T. O’Sullivan, Steve Bellisari, Drew Henson, Brooks Bollinger, Kliff Kingsbury, Josh Harris, Jim Sorgi, Jeff Smoker, Reggie McNeal, Bruce Gradkowski, Jordan Palmer, Colt Brennan, Andre Woodson, Tom Brandstater, Mike Teel, Keith Null, Curtis Painter, Rusty Smith, Dan LeFevour, Tony Pike, Ryan Lindley, Zach Mettenberger, David Fales, Keith Wenning, Tajh Boyd, Garrett Gilbert, Nate Sudfeld, Jake Rudock, Brandon Allen, Jeff Driskel, Brad Kaaya, Luke Falk, Tanner Lee.

[sandwedge]

(10-21-2024, 05:48 PM)coachmcneil71 Wrote: You can't see the forest for the dang trees can you. Chaos ruled August and early September. JB was throwing the ball to the guys that A) he was getting significant reps with and B) the guys that he trusted from the second tier group of pass catchers. Hence, Yoshi was scoring our tuds. Who seems to be scoring them now that everyone is up to speed and practicing?

This team has dropped two heartbreakers to the two best teams in the AFC; KC and Balt. Both games that they were in and could've easily won. They've had a couple of stinkers in the middle, but are coming off of a division win. 

The sky isn't falling! Complaining after a division win is so atypical Bengal fan! 

Amen Coach!! I am laughing my ass off at the number of passive/aggressive fans on here! We score over 30 points and lose, people saying the offense is firing on all cylinders everybody contributing but the defense sucks. We win 2 tough games because the defense got some players back and the offense scores just enough points to win and we are back to so and so sucks, the coaches suck, the play calling sucks, the scouting department sucks, FO sucks, the mascot sucks, the guy painting the lines on the fields sucks, not sure if I missed anyone..

[*Nate (formerly eliminate08)*]

(10-21-2024, 01:42 PM)XsandOs Wrote: This. 

Something beyond just flats. Shallow curls, digs, etc. 

Yep, give All some deep routes please...

(10-21-2024, 07:09 PM)Nicomo Cosca Wrote: They really don’t have anyone else to pay besides the 2 WR’s.

I am all for paying Tee now, he has stayed healthy lately and has been taking hits and making big catch after big catch.

I was against extending him in the Offseason, he has made me a believer. Sign them both.

[KillerGoose]

(10-21-2024, 06:59 PM)pulses Wrote: Tom Brady was a 6th rounder FYI. Where they get drafted doesn't mean shit.

This an incredibly simplified way of thinking. Generally speaking the round someone is drafted in is highly predictive of the career they will have. Notice that I say highly predictive and not perfectly predictive. You have your Tom Bradys and Brock Purdys but you have a lot more Jim Sorgis and Brandon Allens. There is a whole lot of nuance you are missing here by trying to make it binary and when we talk about making it binary, it's a lot closer to being perfectly predictive than it is to "not meaning shit". 

[sandwedge]

(10-21-2024, 07:09 PM)Bengalbug Wrote: LOL.  It does matter.  Just go look at success rate by round.  The later in the draft, the lower chance it materializes.

Other 6th round QBs. This list is not exhaustive.

Josh Booty, Josh Heupel, J.T. O’Sullivan, Steve Bellisari, Drew Henson, Brooks Bollinger, Kliff Kingsbury, Josh Harris, Jim Sorgi, Jeff Smoker, Reggie McNeal, Bruce Gradkowski, Jordan Palmer, Colt Brennan, Andre Woodson, Tom Brandstater, Mike Teel, Keith Null, Curtis Painter, Rusty Smith, Dan LeFevour, Tony Pike, Ryan Lindley, Zach Mettenberger, David Fales, Keith Wenning, Tajh Boyd, Garrett Gilbert, Nate Sudfeld, Jake Rudock, Brandon Allen, Jeff Driskel, Brad Kaaya, Luke Falk, Tanner Lee.

How about Mr. Irrelevant, Brock Purdy